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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    The most utter BS I have heard in decades.. The only thing Greeks deserve to fly for their financial discipline are Sopwith Camels.. funny how EU nations, some of them flying old MiG-29s and Mi-17s should participate in saving Greeks, so that they can afford NH90s, EC725s, AH-64s and upgrade their "old" Block 52+ with AESA radars.. gotta be kidding me..
    Well, it wasn't my suggestion...

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    Nope. There is no room in the F-16 for a radar of that size (1600+ T&Rs), internal EOTS, EODAS, updated computers to process & fuse it all, and MADL to share it all.
    F-16I has MAWS (=EODAS), F-16E/F internal FLIR. Could be combined easily. No need for EOTS for A/A only.
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    MAWS = EODAS, in what universe? MASW is just a warning devise that at best tells you a general direction of in inbound missile.

    These are features of EODAS that MAWS does not do:
    1. Provide YATO (You Are The One) functionality which tells the F-35 if the threat is headed for him or not.
    2. Track all airborne objects (SAMs, AAM, planes, drones, AAA) within the WVR environment
    3. Allow for the guidance of HOBS missiles
    4. Act as a replacement for NVGs in order to see around the aircraft in low light conditions.
    5. Organic BDA, regardless of the angle of the plane
    6. Visual quing of detected objects from GMTI and SAR maps
    7. Fully fused into the battlespace

    ---EODAS gets with a software update (ie it's been demonstrated but not part of Block 3F)
    1. TBM tracking to include GeoLocation of the launcher
    2. Detection of ground fires (with Geolocation) to include MGs, RPGs, Arty, MLRS, etc


    "F-16E/F internal FLIR" = IRST yes, FLIR no

    In both cases (MAWS & FLIR) they are not completely fused.
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    spudman: matrix was a good movie but the only one repeating YATO is You,
    ditto for geolocation of ballistic missile launchers

    SpudmanWP VS Beesley & F-35 pilot Major John Wilson


    "DAS is basically missile launch detectors, beesley said".

    “It’s got limited utility, it’s for general awareness only…
    You can’t really target with it unless it’s something really big,
    or if it’s like a boat on the water you can see that…
    It’s just for general awareness, what’s underneath me, what’s around me…
    It’s cool, to be honest with you I don’t really use it all that often,
    the reason being is that if I really want to see what is underneath me I will just look outside,
    I will just roll up. It doesn’t take that much longer for me to just bank up there airplane and look…
    Because I can see it with greater clarity…
    It’s just an added benefit. That is not the primary function of those cameras.”

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    These are features of EODAS that MAWS does not do:
    1. Provide YATO (You Are The One) functionality which tells the F-35 if the threat is headed for him or not.
    2. Track all airborne objects (SAMs, AAM, planes, drones, AAA) within the WVR environment
    3. Allow for the guidance of HOBS missiles
    4. Act as a replacement for NVGs in order to see around the aircraft in low light conditions.
    5. Organic BDA, regardless of the angle of the plane
    6. Visual quing of detected objects from GMTI and SAR maps
    7. Fully fused into the battlespace

    ---EODAS gets with a software update (ie it's been demonstrated but not part of Block 3F)
    1. TBM tracking to include GeoLocation of the launcher
    2. Detection of ground fires (with Geolocation) to include MGs, RPGs, Arty, MLRS, etc
    Last edited by obligatory; 17th February 2017 at 00:02.

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    Wow..

    It took me less time to Google a quote about YATO than it took for you to put your foot in your mouth.

    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Airbus denies fraud allegations over Eurofighter Typhoon deal


    The [Austrian] ministry [...] issued a statement that a criminal complaint had been filed accusing Airbus and Eurofighter of “willingly and fraudulently” deceiving Austria on the “true purchase price as well as to the true ability to deliver and true specifications of the Eurofighter interceptor planes.”
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    “We cannot see any foundation in particular for the allegations of bad faith and fraud,” Airbus said.
    [...]

    "Offset deals are obviously an ideal launcher for corruption, misery and money laundering," Defense Minister Hans Peter Doskozil told a news conference in Vienna, Reuters reported.
    A positive outcome for the Eu industry?


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    Last edited by TomcatViP; 19th February 2017 at 03:58.

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    Obsolete news article since all personnel mentioned were replaced by Trump

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    Quote Originally Posted by djcross View Post
    Obsolete news article since all personnel mentioned were replaced by Trump
    I can just imagine Trump arguing with Trump across the table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rii View Post
    I can just imagine Trump arguing with Trump across the table.
    It would be nullified.
    Here is the formula:
    Stupidity + Stupidity = 0
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    "Stupid" is a billionaire, and now, the president of the United States. He must be doing something right.

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    It's very easy to become a billionaire. All you need is a couple of hundred million invested in New York property & 40 years. Job done.

    Trump inherited a large fortune, & according to some estimates of his current wealth (he refuses to make it public) he'd be a lot richer if he'd invested it all in tracker funds instead of managing it himself.
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    F-15s scramble to intercept unresponsive aircraft over restricted airspace over West Palm Beach

    Friday to intercept an unresponsive general aviation aircraft that flew near Palm Beach during a stay by President Trump at Mar-a-Lago.

    The jets flew at supersonic speeds and residents were startled by the loud boom, the North American Aerospace Defense Command, NORAD, said in a statement.
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    Quote Originally Posted by swerve View Post
    It's very easy to become a billionaire. All you need is a couple of hundred million invested in New York property & 40 years. Job done.

    Trump inherited a large fortune, & according to some estimates of his current wealth (he refuses to make it public) he'd be a lot richer if he'd invested it all in tracker funds instead of managing it himself.
    I don't know if you have noticed this but... there are a lot of real idiots in the US press that will say anything they think will make Trump look bad.

    Trump is clearly something of a buffoon in many senses, but the idea that he just kind of bungled through life and ended up a multi-billionare with a world famous brand, a successful game-show host, and yes... president. Not a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    I don't know if you have noticed this but... there are a lot of real idiots in the US press that will say anything they think will make Trump look bad.

    Trump is clearly something of a buffoon in many senses, but the idea that he just kind of bungled through life and ended up a multi-billionare with a world famous brand, a successful game-show host, and yes... president. Not a chance.
    In honesty i have to agree with you.
    Take CNN. They would be the ONE News station that hard Anti Trump with Anti Russian mix. Its a bit weird mix..

    As for Trump, he has some bad traits though.. Team building and think before he speaks(or tweets).. Most of this comes from his swollen Ego which is the size of the moon.
    I mean it should have dawned on him now, that its not always the smartest thing to confront all ctitics, especial now the the elect campgain is over and he is in fact the President of USA.

    He and his staff should go to work, and just let the media have its regular fume.
    Listn to advisors and staff around him who is quite skilled, and actual do what's been planned by the team around him.
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    multi billionaire ?
    it was disputed of he was over or under 1 billion,
    estimates was he was below 1 billion, trump disputed it, but had no hard data to back it up

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    Quote Originally Posted by hopsalot View Post
    Trump is clearly something of a buffoon in many senses, but the idea that he just kind of bungled through life and ended up a multi-billionare with a world famous brand, a successful game-show host, and yes... president. Not a chance.
    I'm no high flying Brioni-clad business tycoon but buying three casinos in Atlantic City and then making them compete against each other (until they went belly up) doesn't sound a great idea. Just a layman's perspective.

    As for his net worth, I'm sure his tax records would have shone a light on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swerve View Post
    It's very easy to become a billionaire. All you need is a couple of hundred million invested in New York property & 40 years. Job done.

    Trump inherited a large fortune, & according to some estimates of his current wealth (he refuses to make it public) he'd be a lot richer if he'd invested it all in tracker funds instead of managing it himself.
    Easy, huh? I must be doing something wrong, because I am far from a millionaire, let alone billionaire. He took over the family business, and diversified. Who wouldn't do that? Point is he has gone much farther in life than many of us ever will.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Freehand View Post
    Easy, huh? I must be doing something wrong, because I am far from a millionaire, let alone billionaire. He took over the family business, and diversified. Who wouldn't do that? Point is he has gone much farther in life than many of us ever will.
    you arent millionaire because you werent born millionaire,
    money makes money

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