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Thread: A-W Meteor NF.14 WS788 Restoration Thread

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    Peter, I shall be keeping the nail for posterity! In fact I think I should make it into a forum 'Bodge of the Year trophy', to be presented annually to the restorer on Key who finds the most comedy previous repair while restoring an aircraft...

    Charlie, the canopy opened with one hand! Hopefully I can restore the electric opening too at some point.

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    Thanks again for this update.

    Years ago I summarised my logbook in Excel and abstracted a database from it.

    I find that of the 15 trips I did in this a/c one was exactly 60 years ago today, for 50 minutes doing cine. I.E. doing practice gunnery using the gun camera to assess the pilots proficiency.

    The last trip was in the run up to the NATO exercise Vigilant on May 21 1957, 60 mins practice interceptions at night under GCI control. This was the second of two trips that night with an hour between them for refuelling and a cup of coffee.
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    Peter, I have PM'd you re. the photo of 788 in flight you posted earlier in the thread. Would it be possible for you to reproduce your log of trips in 788 on here please? It would be a nice snapshot of the jet's service career.

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    Forgot to say, I received a pdf of 788's movement card today from the nice people at the RAF Museum. Once I have converted it to a format I can reproduce on here I shall share it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterVerney View Post
    Thanks again for this update.

    Years ago I summarised my logbook in Excel and abstracted a database from it.

    I find that of the 15 trips I did in this a/c one was exactly 60 years ago today, for 50 minutes doing cine. I.E. doing practice gunnery using the gun camera to assess the pilots proficiency.

    The last trip was in the run up to the NATO exercise Vigilant on May 21 1957, 60 mins practice interceptions at night under GCI control. This was the second of two trips that night with an hour between them for refuelling and a cup of coffee.
    That's a really nice connection to this thread, Peter. I bet seeing this Meteor again never even entered your mind back then .
    Hopefully you can be reunited with your backseat at some point if you so wished!


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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterVerney View Post
    Thanks again for this update.

    Years ago I summarised my logbook in Excel and abstracted a database from it.

    I find that of the 15 trips I did in this a/c one was exactly 60 years ago today, for 50 minutes doing cine. I.E. doing practice gunnery using the gun camera to assess the pilots proficiency.

    The last trip was in the run up to the NATO exercise Vigilant on May 21 1957, 60 mins practice interceptions at night under GCI control. This was the second of two trips that night with an hour between them for refuelling and a cup of coffee.
    That's a really nice connection to this thread, Peter. I bet seeing this Meteor again never even entered your mind back then .
    Hopefully you can be reunited with your backseat at some point if you so wished!


    Rob

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    It'd be more than fine with me for Mr Verney to re-acquaint himself with 788! Her history is something I am very interested in learning more about. I would love to find a pic of her while she was being moved at Leeming under a Chinook for example! And only this week I learned that she was used as camera ship on a photo sortie with the Yellowjacks display team.
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    My memory might be playing tricks here but I seem to recall a photo of '788 under a Chinook appearing in a copy of Air Clues back in the 80s? Will see if I can find it.

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    If you could, that would be brilliant!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wyvernfan View Post
    That's a really nice connection to this thread, Peter. I bet seeing this Meteor again never even entered your mind back then .
    Hopefully you can be reunited with your backseat at some point if you so wished!


    Rob
    I agree wholeheartedly. This very personal connection adds something to the already interesting thread. And because a Meatbox ride in a T7 as a cadet was my first experience of jet flight there is an added piquancy for me, personally.
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    Looks like a good base for a restoration. Best of luck with her!

    Quote Originally Posted by Blue_2 View Post
    ...I think I should make it into a forum 'Bodge of the Year trophy', to be presented annually to the restorer on Key who finds the most comedy previous repair while restoring an aircraft...
    Only aircraft? I've seen some corkers while restoring my buses...

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    01/02/16 Update

    Well, it wasn't really the weather for working on old jets in Yorkshire yesterday! I had a couple of jobs lined up in the cockpit for my new recruit, but as the rain arrived around the same time we did the canopy cover never even came off! We did do a bit of tidying though. In the jet's present position with her outer wings off, there are a few sharp pipes sticking out of the wing join which it would not be difficult for passing visitors to snag themselves on, so we got busy removing the sharp pipes and blanking them off. Here Alison, my better half and newest recruit to the Meteor team, gets to grips with hydraulic couplings which have not been spun off in 50 years in all likelihood.

    After finding blanks in stores they were refitted. Much tidier, and safer too

    Sadly the jet is still in her puddle. I hope to get her hauled out soon as it isn't doing her any favours

    After this we retired to lunch, then we learned something of the museum's Grand Plan regarding scheduled restorations. There is a current project in the HP building, which soon will be paint stripped and repainted. Once this is done, the Meteor will be brought in and readied for the same process. In the meantime the wings are to be brought into the workshop next door and receive similar treatment.
    We may also be welcoming a new recruit soon, one not unknown on the Key forum too...
    Things are looking up for the old girl!
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    I wonder if there is some confusion over which aircraft was moved by the Chinook, the details below imply that it was the Javelin

    https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=...hinook&f=false
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    I hope it was the Meteor, as stated in my Gate Guardians book. To be fair pics of either slung under a Chinook would be worth seeing!
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    09/02/2016 Update

    This edition of the update thread starts thrillingly with... a handful of rusty nuts.

    I had some welding jobs to do for work, which I brought home to sort in my garage. While I had all the gear out I decided to do the Meatbox's step too. A bit of careful dremel work saw the above rusty mess, the pivot nuts and bolts and the remains of the springs, removed from the step. Next task was to make up 2 new lugs for the bracket.

    These were welded and trimmed, again with the faithful dremel, before being painted

    The rest of the components of the step were also painted, after they had been de-rusted and treated with jenolite to hold the tinworm at bay.

    Next job, simply reassemble and weld a new bottom into the step box. A boring little piece of the jet overall I know, but if the jet is being restored I want it to be as right as I can get it.
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    Ah Blue - like so many things in life get the small details right and the rest will seamlessly follow!!

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    Steps are a good start. How will you get higher up without them!
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    A philosophical cogitation indeed Ian!
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    Blue - apologies for encroaching on your Meatbox thread but I was wondering about the Flea, in regard of your newly adopted project......

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    Flea is still a work in progress; Indeed the turnbuckles to rig the little blighter should be arriving in the next week or two.
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    Ah, those steps cum handholds. A little boasting but we had to go to Habbaniya in Iraq on a weekend nav exercise, returning on Sunday pm with takeoff at 1400 local. The aircraft was parked in the open on the Plateau airfield as the main runway at Habb was under repair. The temperature was 120F so we only wore underpants and lightweight flying suit. I put on my capeskin flying gloves as getting in to the rear cockpit involved pulling up on the hand holds and kneeling the right knee onto the wing.

    By the time I had got in I had burnt my hands and right knee.
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    Owch! That could put a damper on a weekend jolly I imagine...
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    Thanks for the Flea update, Blue.
    Charlie

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    17/02/16 Update

    Apologies for the slightly late update chaps, paid work got in the way!
    We had a day on 788 on Monday. I can now say 'we', as I reckon 3 people involved with the aircraft officially constitutes a team! I would like to welcome Rich, better known on this forum as Richw_82, to both YAM and the Meteor project. I hope he will bring as many good things to YAM as he did to Shackleton WR963.
    Already he has been set to work, as you can see here fettling the sticky latch on the DV window!

    On arrival, things were a tad wintry







    The good news was the Tractor God had been sighted! So we ambushed him in the NAAFI, and coaxed him out into the snow to move the Meteor out of the puddle she has lived in for the past few months.







    She's certainly better off not sat in this!

    Brian then went back to cuddling Dak props.

    788 is now reunited with her wings (ish), and her sister(ish), the Javelin

    I started showing Rich around the jet. Among the things we found was that the fusebox lid still held spare fuses! It's amazing what is still in the jet after so long.

    After an interesting day the starboard main gear door was off, as was the strut for the port inner door. The pile of parts in the HP awaiting treatment is growing!

    And 788 looks much happier at the shallow end of the museum!
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    One thing I forgot to mention. Remember the large nail being used to hold the port main u/c door on? I found its twin doing the same job on the starboard door!
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    More great photos Blue, thanks for sharing!
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    Well, as Blue has said I find myself journeying North instead of South for once, and the snow on the ground on the way up to Elvington was making me question my sanity again. The last time I was working in the snow on an aircraft it was changing Griffon spark plugs, this time it was Meteor undercarriage.

    Getting the Meteor moved out of its puddle proved more interesting than it really should have been as the puddle was frozen over, and it was still snowing before the blue sky and sunshine broke through. The puddle was also deeper than you would realise, which made working there more difficult especially if you dropped something like a spanner. One handy tractor later and we were high and dry.



    After spending a little time getting acquainted with which end was which, and where the propellers really ought to go, it was time to get to the tasks I had been allocated - which were removal of some of the landing gear door linkages and some seized fasteners on the leading edge panels. The landing gear linkages were rather crusty looking but it was actually just large amounts of flaking paint and some surface rust on the steel components. There are some areas in the bays that have been collecting water and at least one small stiffener panel will need replacing.




    Up on the leading edges, the flush fitting countersunk screws have been replaced at some point with large mushroom head screws of a really soft steel. They are being a pain to remove, as they have rusted into the captive nuts below, and have a nasty habit of either shearing or being damaged to the point a screwdriver just won't bite. As a result they may be getting sacrificed to a dremel, drilled out, and new captive nuts riveted in where they can't be saved.



    The afternoon was spent completing my induction paperwork, and then back onto the Meteor where Blue and I tried to figure out some of the issues caused when it was dismantled and moved some years ago. Inside the centre section is a mess of cables, pipes and linkages that should operate various systems and now don't... there may be some parts that can be repaired and reinstated over time. The airbrakes in particular provided much of a headache, trying to get them open enough to lubricate the linkages to make them operate better, that we can't get to without them open...

    Next time I'll have read the AP's a few times and have a better understanding of the intricate nature of the Meteor. After being spoilt a bit by the amount of room on the Shackleton, the Meteor really is a miracle of packaging as much as possible into a small amount of space.

    All in all I enjoyed myself and will be back for more!

    Rich
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    Excellent update chap's! Good to hear there was nothing too shocking in the gear bays. I wonder if dry ice might be a media best for this cleanup?
    Cheers,Peter
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    I think a good old fashioned power wash to shift the 50 years of muck and flaky paint will be the first port of call! Then we will be able to see what we are up against.
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    Nothing new to report engineering-wise this week I'm afraid, but the first new shiny bit for 788 arrived in the post, a shiny brand new unused port undercarriage jack!

    This will be getting fitted when the u/c bay overhaul begins.

    If anyone has any Meteor NF14 bits they no longer want and wish to donate to a worthy cause, we turn nothing away!
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