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Thread: Rafale news & discussion part XVI

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    Quote Originally Posted by Loke View Post
    I believe Brazil and Sweden will also operate Targo II on Gripen E/F -- how does it compare to other HMDs? I thought it was a low-cost solution? I am therefore surprised that oil-rich ME countries go for it?
    I do not know, but test pilot i talked to do like it (albeit he is not an expert)

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloweene View Post
    I do not know, but test pilot i talked to do like it (albeit he is not an expert)


    and http://elbitsystems.com/product/targo/


    Given the Dassault is nominated for the Collier trophy this year for its Head up display solution with enhanced vision, it's a bit sad that they rely on a helmet that still needs NVG.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post


    and http://elbitsystems.com/product/targo/


    Given the Dassault is nominated for the Collier trophy this year for its Head up display solution with enhanced vision, it's a bit sad that they rely on a helmet that still needs NVG.
    Which one, the bicolor one? On the other hand, you know they integrate the system the client wants (taro II for Qatar, and probably also India i guess)

    Edit : ah ok Falcon Eye. But i think New Shepard will win.
    Last edited by halloweene; 10th February 2017 at 08:51.

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    They deserve it more. Let's be realistic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    They deserve it more. Let's be realistic.
    Yes, and that's why i think they'll get it.

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    in AviationWeek, regarding Martin Baker test fleet of vintage Gloster Meteor:

    The active Meteor also flew late last year to the French air force test site of Cazaux air base southwest of Bordeaux to conduct high-altitude ejection-seat activation tests.
    Any idea for which platform ?
    Last edited by TomcatViP; 11th February 2017 at 00:12.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    Could be Rafale in Qatari configuration with HMD.

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    Qatari Rafale paint scheme

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    Quote Originally Posted by halloweene View Post
    Qatari Rafale paint scheme

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    For real !?! the Rafale shown in IAF colors is the same as that of the French AF, boring grey..

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    Yes for real... And exclusive btw. (at least for a few hours)

    For indian Rafale we do not know yet. Only images...

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    If I'm not mistaken, the grey color is part of the RCS treatment applied... changing pigments may have to do with the absorption capabilities of the material... if qatari Rafales have the "camo" version, maybe it's something they managed to develop recently?

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    or maybe there are no RCS treatment

    Anyway, a looker for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    or maybe there are no RCS treatment

    Anyway, a looker for sure.
    might be lol

    but for the price they pay, I'd be surprised, as they always want the best cake you have.. with some additional icing on top of it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    or maybe there are no RCS treatment
    Anyway, a looker for sure.
    I am sure AMD have gone the lengths of making all those sawtooth edges perpendicular to the line of flight only to "forget" about the RAM paint.. (?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackArcher View Post
    For real !?! the Rafale shown in IAF colors is the same as that of the French AF, boring grey..
    So ... just like the Su-30s, Jags, etc.?
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    Quote Originally Posted by halloweene View Post
    Qatari Rafale paint scheme

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    ooh i'm getting a stiffy stiffy.

    hope they paint the nose darker grey like their mirages


    this era of aircraft has been super boring. 90% of the export user camoflage is no different than the home operator.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    I am sure AMD have gone the lengths of making all those sawtooth edges perpendicular to the line of flight only to "forget" about the RAM paint.. (?)
    Do you see any serrated edges on this particular airframe?

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    well, the resolution seems way too low to see any of them regardless whether they are there or not

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    exactly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    Do you see any serrated edges on this particular airframe?
    There are many..

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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    There are many..
    visible on the front landing gear door for instance.
    The Rafale international forum :
    http://rafale.freeforums.org/

    Rafale news blog :
    http://rafalenews.blogspot.com/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kovy View Post
    visible on the front landing gear door for instance.
    can't see it. Are we talking about the same pic?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TomcatViP View Post
    can't see it. Are we talking about the same pic?
    There..

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    Lol... They missed the leading & trailing edges and it's sporting some wonderful 90 angles
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    Lol... They missed the leading & trailing edges and it's sporting some wonderful 90 angles
    Trust me, nobody cares what you think

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    Joy.. Personal attacks.. It must mean you're out of valid arguments.
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Arguments? Huh? I am not arguing about anything.. I was talking to Tomcat until you have appeared uninvited with your BS no one was asking about..
    And let me guess, in the next response you start with endless promoting of your stinky F-35..

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    You posted in an open forum.. We're all "invited".
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    Lol... They missed the leading & trailing edges and it's sporting some wonderful 90 angles
    The beautiful Rafale (apart from the vort on it's nose) is not a 5. gen VLO fighter -- however there is no doubt that it is a 4.5 gen fighter with a combination of several LO features and a few other tricks up it's sleeve:
    On a visit to the Ambala air base, Air Marshal Deo said that the Indian government is also seized of the importance of acquiring fighter aircraft with stealth features and this is why the Rafale aircraft being acquired from France has some special stealth features. “The radial cross section of the aircraft is significantly smaller for an aircraft of that size. There are many other features too which I would not like to disclose at this stage,” he said.
    http://indianexpress.com/article/ind...force-3737350/


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    The cleanroom is being enlarged from 1800 m 2 to 2300 m 2 , with additional robots and workstations. Thales hired 140 new staff in 2016, including 50 clean room operators. About 20 more staff are expected in 2017 to complete this ramp-up. "The special nature of our businesses requires us to train our operators in-house," said Normand. "The candidates are selected on their dexterity, regardless of their previous experience. They then receive 400 hours of training before they are released onto the production lines under the supervision of a tutor."
    Each radar is tested, calibrated, and monitored during a process that lasts nearly two months.
    http://www.janes.com/article/67708/t...rce-deliveries

    The RBE2 radar is amazing, and has a very high performance -- however the production and testing seems rather labour-intensive. Are other AESAs produced in a similar manner?

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