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  1. #1111
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    The Guardian has been suffering for some time. No great surprise really.

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    To me and I estimate to most people, it is a surprise. I would have thought that the revenue accruing from advertising non jobs in the public sector would have kept them well afloat.

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    There is no advertising revenue in news any more. Its one of their biggest problems. Indeed, the Guardian has been reporting its own potential demise for some time. Come out of your Telegraph bubble John..

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    Quote Originally Posted by John Green View Post
    You invented that !
    http://www.cityam.com/241822/more-na...-seeks-savings

    Moggy
    "What you must remember" Flip said "is that nine-tenths of Cattermole's charm lies beneath the surface." Many agreed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce View Post
    There is no advertising revenue in news any more. Its one of their biggest problems. Indeed, the Guardian has been reporting its own potential demise for some time. Come out of your Telegraph bubble John..

    Thanks for the invitation Bruce but, I'm comfortable there and feel at home. From time to time they publish my inconsequential letters and I occasionally write to one or two of their contributors including those on the Holy Grail.

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    Merely a corporate rationalisation. It's obviously not felt necessary to feed the brutes. I agree with that - don't make 'em too comfortable !

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    I would imagine they regard your letters with as much delight as those from a Mrs. Trellis from north wales John,

    "We have a letter from Mr. Green from Southern England"

    I would imagine they would be a coherent as hers always appear to be

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    What do you know about coherence especially if judged by your last contribution ?

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    Ah, not aware of 'I'm sorry I haven't a clue' then John.

    How apt

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    On a more positive note, it now appears UKIP is no longer a parliamentary party in England

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    To be replaced according to the 'grapevine', with a new Populism Party. That's a catchy title that will rattle a few cages !

    Gets my vote.

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    A Daily Telegraph report (today, 2nd May) carries the story that a buried Saint Edmund might be buried in Bury St. Edmunds. Yes, the last burial place of the Patron Saint of England might be under a tennis court close to St. Edmundsbury Cathedral.

    The English King of the East Angles (Anglo-Saxons) is though to be buried at this site which makes a change from the car park found to be allocated to a French Plantagenet.

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    To-day, 4th May is the seventy second anniversary marking the end of WW2 and of the surrender of the German armed forces to Field Marshal Montgomery and the British 21st army group on Luneburg Heath, Northern Germany.

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    Report, D. Tel. to-day, 8th inst.

    If he is to be believed, our Prime Minster in waiting, Labours bully boy, John Mcdonnell recommends Das Kapital for some light reading. As a committed Marxist (Beermat this is for you) McDonnell re-affirms his far left socialist principles and believes that Labour will win the coming General Election.

    Deluded !
    Last edited by John Green; 8th May 2017 at 12:12.

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    JC, DA and JN all seem hellbent on destroying the labour party for sure. Quite extraordinary.

    Das Kapital? I'd assume Mein Kampf is more your kind of reading JG?

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    Evenin' John!

    I have read Marx, but I'm not a Marxist. I've read Peter Pan, but I don't believe in fairies.

    It is worth a read, though.
    Last edited by Beermat; 9th May 2017 at 05:49.

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    I'm thinking that you're more something intellectual from the Beano ?

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    When I was 5, the Beano was very entertaining for me, thankfully I moved on...........

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    I read what you write but, I think that some of us are not so sure.

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    As somebody who happily quotes from the DM you wouldn't be my first port of call for guidance on intellectual reading, indeed the Beano is actually more sophisticated than said "news"paper.

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    "port of call for guidance..."

    Are you sure ? You could do a lot worse !

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    Theresa May wants to bring back fox hunting, if the Tories win the general election: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...-conservative/

    I'm wondering what the 'news behind the news' is, here. Her critics are being handed a gift of an opportunity to point out that the Conservatives have their priorities in the wrong order (blood sports over the NHS, etc etc), and the policy is divisive even within her own party. Even the Torygraph readership are 67% against its reintroduction. Maybe she's hoping that such a divisive policy will bring out the worst of the left-wing frothing, which will hand her some more votes? Or she's appealing to rats jumping the UKIP ship? Cameron used fox hunting as a strategic issue after the 2015 UK general election, perhaps to demonstrate that the SNP would overstep the mark and try and frustrate rUK policies that were already devolved in Scotland.

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    Yes, its a strategy; no doubt. It also keeps peoples eye off the ball. However, I think this election is designed mostly to reduce UKIP vote share to below 5% - which will hand the Tories the election whatever Labour do. The previous strategy was to kill the LibDems, which they did very successfully. I think Corbyn will maintain his total vote share, at the expense of the Green party, but will lose masses of seats.

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    Additional to my last.

    Having seen the leaked manifesto, I think there is a reasonable chance of Labour vote share falling quite dramatically!

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    Immediate testing of public opinion shows the opposite, despite the BBC's attempts to spin it to match their narrative.

    Renationalisation of the railways and the abolition of tuition fees seem rather popular. Bruce, did you read the manifesto or what various papers have said it said?

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    Interesting to see some responses, admittedly from The Metro (aka the Daily Fail but with more pictures and fewer words), that young voters don't like Labour's proposal to scrap tuition fees. Apparently those fresh out of Uni, saddled with £40k + debt, don't want to see their wee brothers and sisters given a free ride. And I thought it was Baby Boomers who were supposed to be greedy and bitter.

    Apropos fox hunting, beyond trying to win back the Middle English vote, perhaps it is a ploy? If Labour don't loudly shout this one down, because they are too busy demonstrating their dyscalculia (a made up disease for folks wot can't do numbers, John) or slowly hemorrhaging and leaking from within, then they look pretty weak! Fox hunting is your sterotypical nasty Tory issue; definitely not the preserve of the working or middle classes. If Labour dither around with this one then they look half-baked. I could simply be reading far too much into this.

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    Fox hunting ? Euphemism for class envy. If you are concerned about animal welfare I suggest you first turn your attention to the function of our slaughterhouses and second to the whole notion of rearing animals for food production.

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    BM - testing of the manifesto promises did show some public support for specific policies. However, overall, more people were now less likely to vote Labour as a result of having read it, than the other way about. Obviously, we need all of the manifesto's on the table before we can see whether there is a net positive or negative effect from it.

    Renationalisation of the railways and utilities will make not a blind bit of difference to the quality of service, or the prices and is a pointless exercise IMHO. Its the wrong priority.

    Free school meals, and abolition of university fees tends to favour the better off in society, especially the latter. I think they are poorly thought through policies.

    This is worth a read:

    https://capx.co/labours-manifesto-ta...ers-for-fools/

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    John, I'm not sure class envy factors into fox hunting as readily as you suppose. When I was at agricultural college the majority, if not all, of the young farmers were in favour of fox hunting. Likewise the farriers, wannabe gamekeepers, ghillies and other assorted sons of toil. Rather I think the divide is between the majority of us townies that don't really understand rural practices and traditions and view them as a bit dirty, ghastly and backward, and a small rural set who peg their identity on seemingly archaic practices. I recall one young farmer telling us of his father's reaction when he started daubing moisturiser on his wind-ruddied cheeks after a day in the hills; the older farmer viewing this as worryingly effete behavior in his otherwise hardy son, clearly learned in the big city.

    As for your slaughterhouse analogy, I don't think the people working there necessarily do their job for the rush of endorphins. No doubt there will be some nutters who derive pleasure from the work, but from personal experience abattoir workers seem like normal, measured people. It is quite odd to step into an abattoir and see people pottering around making their lunch with the smell of blood thick in the air. I certainly didn't sense any 'thrill of the chase' there.

    I do think that Halal slaughter needs looked into. It seems odd that an abattoir can dodge round a lot of legislation and red tape (in place for good reason) simply on religious grounds. Furthermore I would like all producers that use Halal meat in their products to state this fact clearly, so that I can avoid buying them. That side of the industry I really don't want to support.

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    I wouldn't fault much of that. I'm not too Wilde about Oscar but, he probably got it right !

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