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    I was between jobs for three months last year, and despite my savings being below the threshold I could not receive JSA or Housing to cover my rent
    Why should taxpayers pay you to do nothing and pay the rent on your house?
    There are plenty of jobs at the jobcentre but obviously they are beneath you, could you not have taken a menial job, you know, the ones you think are only for immigrants from the EU?
    Does being a feckless socialist with a degree disbar you from doing a low paid job to make ends meet whilst looking for better, more suitable employment?

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    It's a strange circumstance isn't it, by an act of kindness they will probably lose their benefits, have to pay the rent and living costs on the new flats until the monies have been exhausted and then reapply for benefits. Hopefully it may at least give them a foot up in the world.

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    I am surprised at the amount of bile out there against me for being made redundant. Where did that come from about low paid menial jobs? I got another job. In the meantime I was hoping to keep a roof over my kids heads while I got that job. Fortunately it didn't matter as my redundancy package covered me for it, I was just enquiring as to my options should it all go wrong - or rather, options for those I support. As you would.

    Snailer, who are you? You just appear on here to get nasty at someone for being laid off?

    You make a hell of a lot of assumptions.

    1) Feckless. How on earth am I feckless?

    2) I think menial jobs are beneath me? Since getting my degree a very long time ago I have worked in pubs, as a postie, a teaching assistant, a builders labourer, a landscape gardener, on a counter at Boots and as a door-to-door doll salesman on Liverpool trading estates. Not that these were all menial, though the last one was. For the past 17 years I have been in a career, the last 10 of it fairly well re-numerated. My only spell of unemployment was the one I mentioned, and as I pointed out I didn't take any of your money for that either.

    3) I think menial jobs are only for immigrants? Where on earth do you get that from?

    4) Receiving benefits equals unemployed. Not true any more - in fact it never was, but especially now. For example I expect you will find a lot of 'menial' - as you put it - employment among those former residents of Grenfell tower who may be in receipt of support.

    I don't know you and you don't know me. Don't make silly assumptions about me and I won't assume you are another foolish internet troll with nothing better to do at 12.01 on a Friday night.. I'd like to meet you, we can compare fecks.

    Taxpayers include me, one pays National Insurance to Insure oneself against temporary redundancy, and I have. And a lot of Tax.

    I was not railing at the 'unfairness' of it or making out I was particularly deserving, just illustrating a quirk in the system that means cash gifts intended to help people in difficulty might end up subsidising the taxpayer not the intended recipient. How does me being a 'socialist' (which I don't believe I am) or a 'militant' (which I most definitely am not) have anything to do with this?

    On a point of order, it's not rent on 'my' house. It's rent on somebody else's house. I don't begrudge it, just highlighting where the money - be it someones hard-earned or from the 'state' - actually goes.

    Biters get bit, John? What on earth does that mean? I haven't laid anyone off in my life - but I don't imagine that's what you meant. What did you mean?
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    Snailer, you obviously are not circumcised as you are a complete ****

    What a load of bile to spout, people do not make themselves unemployed on purpose you know and benefits are there to help them over that period, far better than casting them adrift so they get into such a position that the state ends up helping them for life.

    I was unemployed for 3 months leaving school and simply because I refused offers of jobs.. the reason for it? I was and had my date to join the RAF and at the time work was scarce where I lived, I would join queues of people sent for interviews and when getting interviewed I would point out to the interviewer that I was joining the RAF in 3 months and there were more needy people in the queue, all bar none thanked me for my honesty, while they didn't have a good word for those that had sent me on a fools errand.

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    Tabloid heading spotted today 'Corbyn insults our brave boys'. Oh, thinks I, that's bad, what has he done? Turns out that he went to Glastonbury to speak about decency and equality (or 'rant', as the Sun hears this kind of thing) and yesterday was armed forces day. That making this out to be a slur on our armed forces is all they have left is a sign of desperation.

    The real story is that a 100,000 cross-section of our youth (plus a scattering of older musos and hippies) all cheered a leader of the opposition. Chants of 'Oh, Jeremy Corbyn' to the tune of 'Seven Nation Army' went around the campsites all Friday and Saturday night. He drew a bigger crowd than Radiohead.

    Whether you agree with any of his policies or not this is a news story - or at least a story with more substance than his being there to address many thousands of people was somehow insulting to anyone. Offensive to tories, yes, but one day it will dawn that this isn't an insult to the people.

    Bring it on, feckless people with long hair, of course they'll support him, etc etc. Except that this lazy explanation belongs to those who think this is 1970. Coughjohncough. If one looks at who actually can spare the hundreds it costs to go, maybe look at the people more carefully under the plastic flower headbands, you can see why the tory organs are trying everything to spin this shift towards popular politics as if it were a morally offensive minority.
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    Oh, and I am also braced for the 'dreamland' bit as well. I don't subscribe to any idealist vision, so knock away at those who do if it makes you feel better.

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    Wish McDonnell hadn't used the word 'murder' though. Silly.

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    And it looks like someone's found the Magic Money Tree. Turns out it was guarded by leprechauns.
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    One wonders how those in unions that voted for him on the understanding that the UK would keep Trident now feel. It also makes one feel that even though they lost the election, and they did, they are determined to put themselves first as opposed to the good of the Country. he reminds me of Sturgeon, lose a vote and carry on wittering about we have a mandate.



    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/blogs-the-papers-40401111

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    Yes, he might have got a bit carried away by the adulation. I liked the rock star "Thank you Glastonbury" bit at the end of his set (there was clearly a part of him that had always wanted to do that). He doesn't have any more mandate than May, though he would probably poll more votes right now. We will never know, of course.

    But he didn't say that about Trident, it was made up. The actual non-story was, and I quote the Telegraph: "Somerset Live reported that Mr Eavis said Mr Corbyn predicted.." etc.

    The Telegraph were using all the tricks to perpetuate the story though. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017...er-will-scrap/

    '...forced to deny he said...' is practically Fleet Street code for 'we have run something largely fabricated and we know it'. Still, quote a Tory MP saying 'This man is dangerous and cannot be trusted' and you can still make your readers nod their heads knowingly and move on to the sport..
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    Indeed - trying to break through the 'who said what' code these days is hard at the best of times, and is about to get harder.

    BM - I think the Magic money tree might be getting a bit nervous. I suspect it will be called on more than it was expecting once the budget is announced.

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    The partial privatisation of the NHS is revealed to be less than satisfactory. Again.

    Typical of the Private sector to think they are more efficient when they tackle something they know little about

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-40408458

    From personal experience working in a number of GP surgeries, when the NHS courier service lost the transportation of patients notes from surgery to surgery to a private company, it was poorly planned, even more poorly executed and patients had died between registering at a new surgery and their notes turning up.
    I heard at the time all this became public knowledge at the beginning of the year that Hunt the.... Oh well lets just call him Jeremy shall we.... Saying it wasn't a real problem as the electronic notes were transferred. Well actually all it showed was that he knew nothing about how the system works ( anyone surprised? No, didn't think so). Different GP practices use different software packages and they don't always talk to each other very well, scanned documents didn't transfer across etc. etc.

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    Juncker is not a happy man...



    Now Herr Juncker, can you understand why we voted leave!

    Cheers

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    One of the most disgusting excuses I have ever read

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-40503842


    It is impossible for terminally ill Charlie Gard to be transferred to the Vatican's children's hospital for treatment, Boris Johnson has said.
    The foreign secretary told Italian Foreign Minister Angelino Alfano legal reasons prevented him from being moved.
    The president of the Bambino Gesu hospital in Rome had asked British doctors if 10-month-old Charlie could be transferred to his care.
    Ohhh I am sorry we are going to let your child die without giving him a chance....... For bloody legal reasons, I wouldn't wish the plight of that poor kid on anyone, but possibly the politician, lawyers or judges families of those involved. I bet the earth would move then.

    Just sickened by the whole affair.
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    On the NHS both my wife and I need knee replacements. The time quoted is about a year. I can manage with elbow crutches but my wife falls frequently. I have now gone privately for her and it will be 4 weeks with a custom made joint and the cost £13,500(good old equity release!) In talking to her surgeon a block has been put on knee and hip replacements at the NHS hospital where he also works. I am sorry for those who have to live in pain as they can not fund what we have done. As for Charlie Gard for gods sake let him go I fear it will all end badly but where is the harm in trying all avenues as I understand it crowd funding means it will cost the taxpayer nothing?
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    Paul,

    Did you think of trying the EU route ? It was authorised and still might be, that if you couldn't get access to an NHS funded operation within a certain time period you could apply to an EU hospital that catered for your particular needs, and have the op there funded by the NHS.

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    I think I will refrain from comment. Others who have followed GD will have their own thoughts on that one.

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    Let evil be to him who evil thinks !

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    The sanction for the 18 week* period is no more unfortunately thanks to the underfunding of the NHS. I bet you never thought you would here that from a lifelong Tory. I will vote Labour next time in less Mrs May gives me a billion quid tax free bribe. Lets face it Corbyn can hardly make more of a a dogs breakfast than we have now.
    * Your GP has to try and make a case for why you should be seen early and they are doing it for many thousands with little sucess.
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    Surely in 2 years time and the NHS is £350M a week better off, long waiting lists will be a thing of the past?

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    Much angst expressed in the media about the new female Dr. Who ? The question mark isn't accidental. Why should this childish nonsense occupy so many column inches of space ?

    I deduce from all the publicity that there is perhaps, a coterie of 'Whoees' like 'Trekkies' who infest stellar space or, some such place. I've never seen an instalment of Dr. Who so, am not really qualified to give an opinion as to whether the role suits male or female.

    Does it matter? Apparently so according to all the muttering - probably from pork pie hat wearing, pipe smoking Prius drivers.

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    Ah, typical grumpy old man mocking comments about something you admit you have never watched?

    I would recommend getting hold of a copy of the episode "Blink". It might change your attitude.

    Or not, if you already have a closed mind
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    Ok, so you're a pork pie hat wearing, pipe smoking Prius driver - why am I not surprised. Perhaps it is to do with your image as a 'Trekkie'!

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    Never confuse Trekkies with Whoies. Almost as bad as Trekkies and Jedi's. I personally find Dr. Who consistently well-written and often clever in the extreme in its paced exposition of mind-expanding ideas. Of little interest to those determined to keep their minds narrow. I do not own a pork-pie hat.

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    Oh John, you are (as usual) so wrong about me.
    I have never, ever smoked. Not a pipe, nor a single cigarette nor even a spliff
    I don't wear hats, unless the sun is too hot on my bald head in which case it is a floppy sun hat
    I am not a Trekkie.... My nickname comes from the Trek bikes I ride, athough I did enjoy the program when first aired in the 60's
    I am not even a Whovian, but I have at least seen some of the episodes, including the above mentioned Blink. Not surprisingly I endorse Beermat's view of the clever writing.


    Oh, and I drive a 300hp 4wd petrol car, so not really in the Prius camp either

    But then why let the truth get in the way of your stereotyping?
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    I'll buy you one - you deserve it.

    "...paced exposition of mind expanding ideas...." That's a first rate piece of psycho-babble.

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    Stereotyping should be written into law.

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    Not the literary type then, John? Look up exposition. It is a standard term used when describing a narrative fiction, and it refers to the revealing of facts to the audience and characters as the plot progresses. Often these facts are just colour, sometimes they are trivial at first but become important later (think detective stories) and sometimes they are crucially important as soon as they are understood because they change everything. A lot of the powerful expositional moments in Who are of this type.

    You have a habit of dismissing words you don't encounter over a pint of Old Toejam at the Puckered Plowman as 'psychobabble'. Which kind of reinforces my last point about resistance to mind-expansion.

    One of the more clever characteristics of Who writing is the way that a viewer's 'background' assumptions going into a story are challenged and overturned by various forms of exposition as the story progresses. The viewer is forced to think in terms outside of our normal frames of reference - most frequently by varying the direction or influence of 'time's arrow". Which is a term frequently used by theoretical physicists, by the way, and also not psychobabble. New ideas have the effect of expanding the mind.

    These things need to be paced. Hit the viewer or reader with too much shifting ground early on and the narrative looses coherence - and you lose their interest. Again, not psychobabble, just study and a tiny bit of practical experience of screenwriting.

    But never having watched one you, of course, know better.
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    After that little lot I'm glad I haven't. Way above my head. What passes for my mind doesn't need expanding it requires organising ! Never mind, you've shown the way - never use two words when ten will do.

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    Might I suggest JG that inviting people to use two words with you might garner a less than savoury response.....

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