Current MiG-29 operators who are intending to retire soon

[Italy]

Algeria - now considering Gripen NG or Rafale to replace MiG-29
Malaysia - now considering Gripen NG or Typhoon to replace MiG-29
Hungary - recently retired MiG-29 for Gripen
Iraq - retired MiG-29 will be replacing them with F-16


any more?

[MSphere]

Bulgaria and Bangladesh would be my best bet.
P.S. Iraqis have not retired any Fulcrums. Their MiGs either defected to Iran, were destroyed or buried

[TR1]

Iraq "retired" its entire Air Force.
Doesn't look like Algeria plans to replace its entire MiG-29 fleet soon.

[TR1]

Bulgaria and Bangladesh would be my best bet.
P.S. Iraqis have not retired any Fulcrums. Their MiGs either defected to Iran, were destroyed or buried

AFAIK Bagladesh only got MiG-29s relatively recently, and is buying more.
Why would they retire them?

[MSphere]

I seem to vaguely remember that they were puzzled by the operating cost of the Fulcrum and wanted to step down to single engine fighters at one time. Now that I see the pending SMT order, they obviously have changed their minds. Disregard.

[Owlcat]

Is possible that Bulgaria and Slovakia may end up accepting one of those juicy second hand F-16 deals like the one offered to Romania.

Although the Polish F-16 deal wasn't as smooth as they expected they could also go for another batch as the possibility of operating brand new F-35 is not realistic.

Serbia is also a candidate for leased Gripens or used Tranche 1 Eurofighters if they pursue further integration with EU.

[MSphere]

Is possible that Bulgaria and Slovakia may end up accepting one of those juicy second hand F-16 deals like the one offered to Romania.

Although the Polish F-16 deal wasn't as smooth as they expected they could also go for another batch as the possibility of operating brand new F-35 is not realistic.

Serbia is also a candidate for leased Gripens or used Tranche 1 Eurofighters if they pursue further integration with EU.

Slovakia and F-16 won't happen. If they ever get new aircraft, it would be leased Gripens which they can operate together with Czechs and Hungarians.

[swerve]

Is possible that Bulgaria and Slovakia may end up accepting one of those juicy second hand F-16 deals like the one offered to Romania.

Juicy? I recall reading a Romanian statement in which they said that the "free" F-16s were too expensive, once the compulsory extras (paying for overhaul, spares, training, new weapons etc.) were taken into account.

[pilatus]

If things keep going ugly then I reckon Syria could be possibly next to retire(forcibly) their MiG's .

[Owlcat]

Juicy?

Sarcasm .

[swerve]

Ah, the difficulty of hearing tone of voice over the interwebs!

[Vetinari]

Bulgaria is not buying anything in the next 5-10 years, no money at all. We are keeping the 29s as long as they can last.

[Italy]

Iraq "retired" its entire Air Force.
Doesn't look like Algeria plans to replace its entire MiG-29 fleet soon.

Algeria is already considering Rafale or Gripen to replace their MiG-29.. when it happens who knows but the intention is there
http://www.tacticalreport.com/view_n...nd_Mirage/2861

Bangladesh MiG-29s cancelled after the corruption trial. They don't fly much because of lack of spare parts
http://www.unbconnect.com/component/...-show/id-48864

[TR1]

You mean :

"
Since procured, the Mig fighter planes remained in store and never flew, even on trial run, in the absence of adequate space of Bangladesh sky, informed sources said."

I don't see anything about spares.
Also, there are photos of them flying @ Bangladesh, hmmmm.

Also, I don't think this has anything to do with the new deliveries of SMTs.

[Italy]

You mean :

"
Since procured, the Mig fighter planes remained in store and never flew, even on trial run, in the absence of adequate space of Bangladesh sky, informed sources said."

I don't see anything about spares.
Also, there are photos of them flying @ Bangladesh, hmmmm.

Also, I don't think this has anything to do with the new deliveries of SMTs.

you sir are correct, it was space not spare.
which makes less sense to buy more aircraft if they can't even find the space. rumors are they want su-30s also

[Boom]

I seem to vaguely remember that they were puzzled by the operating cost of the Fulcrum and wanted to step down to single engine fighters at one time. Now that I see the pending SMT order, they obviously have changed their minds. Disregard.

it was more internal politics than anything else. fulcrums were ordered by sk hasina govt, when her rival khaleda zia came to power she announced plans to retire them giving some silly excuse. now hasina is back in power.

[phexo]

Algeria has start to overhaul some of its Fulcrums, by the way they considering another supplier for its fighter fleet for political reasons.

Yes, Rafale and Gripen NG are being considerated. I hope they choose the Gripen but the US restrictions for the engines and another devices can shut down the possibility to see any european fighter to the Algerian skies...

[haavarla]

Are Belarus considering proccuring new build Mig-29?

[TR1]

Are Belarus considering proccuring new build Mig-29?

They are planning new fighters soon. They will get what Russia wants to give them, so it depends if they try to push MiG-29M2 @ Belarus.

[MSphere]

Algeria has start to overhaul some of its Fulcrums, by the way they considering another supplier for its fighter fleet for political reasons.

Yes, Rafale and Gripen NG are being considerated. I hope they choose the Gripen but the US restrictions for the engines and another devices can shut down the possibility to see any european fighter to the Algerian skies...

Rafales don't use US-made engines.

[Owlcat]

Rafales don't use US-made engines.

But unless Algerians are willing to follow the expensive path chosen by India licensing production the strings attached to Rafale need some serious considerations.

[MSphere]

A moot point.. Algerians don't have industry capable to license produce even an L-39 Albatros, let alone Rafales. Whatever aircraft they choose, they will simply have to buy them with all strings attached.

[waja2000]

malaysia - 3 hot candidate Typhoon, Rafale and F18, Rafale should leading other candidate base on report from local newspaper.

[glitter]

Slovakia and F-16 won't happen. If they ever get new aircraft, it would be leased Gripens which they can operate together with Czechs and Hungarians.

That would make sense for Slovakia, and certainly for SAAB too.
On the other hand, when are those slovak Mig-29 supposed to be phased out ?

Algeria is already considering Rafale or Gripen to replace their MiG-29.. when it happens who knows but the intention is there
http://www.tacticalreport.com/view_n...nd_Mirage/2861

In the current situation, I cannot imagine the Algerian government interested into french planes, unless if Qatar or UAE push them to accept a deal.

[MSphere]

That would make sense for Slovakia, and certainly for SAAB too.
On the other hand, when are those slovak Mig-29 supposed to be phased out ?

Martinez is the right guy to ask..

[Griffon39]

In the current situation, I cannot imagine the Algerian government interested into french planes, unless if Qatar or UAE push them to accept a deal.

Whats so speciall about Algeria and French jetfighters? Dont the countries fairly good/normal political relations to each other nowadays?

I am more interested in why they feel the need to beef up their rather powerful AF further? Who is the mighty neighbour they need do keep at bay? Morocco? Niger?

Or is it just bcz Rafalle proved damned good in blazing various Islamistic Toyota militias who are hellbent to overthrow the local government of the day? I could buy that I gelive...

[Griffon39]

They are planning new fighters soon. They will get what Russia wants to give them, so it depends if they try to push MiG-29M2 @ Belarus.

If so prolly as payment for access to the BelR pipeline network.

Could mean another few yrs on lifes sustaining emergency care for RSK MiG.
But they better have something more than Fulcrum upgrades in the pipe, else the future of this proud company looks bleak IMHO..

[TR1]

Not so much payments for a specific project, Russia in general bankrolls the Belorussian military (and not just).

[killerbean]

Are there any plans to retire the German Mig-29 soon?

[AndyMarden]

The German MiG-29s were retired around 2004....