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    Thanks to the Historic Aviation part I found these here:
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    Hunter. Is this Rhodesia?

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    Harvard in Israel
    It does't look like an Israelean roundel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    Hunter. Is this Rhodesia?
    Royal Rhodesian Air Force Hawker Hunter FGA.9 used in RRAF from 15 May 1963 to 25 July 1982 (previous identity XE560).

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    Harvard in Israel
    It does't look like an Israelean roundel.
    Israelian NA T-6 Harvard preserved (?) in Ha'aretz Museum (Jerusalem).
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    That Israeli roundel is quite weathered and doesn't look like its normal self.

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    Greek Coast Guard :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Freehand View Post
    That Israeli roundel is quite weathered and doesn't look like its normal self.
    How an Israelian T-6 can be when well preserved :

    http://img2.timg.co.il/forums/1_162664311.JPG
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    Great pic!

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    Montenegro roundels close-up :


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    Quote Originally Posted by Krishna_j View Post
    The Best updates aviation roundels site is

    http://www.aircraft-insignia.com/ -

    this is by the peerless John Cochrane who wrote the best book on aircraft roundels in 1998 published by Airlife

    The site is updated with new roundels from Libya etc - check it out

    And he has a new edition coming out at the end of this month, greatly expanded. It should be fantastic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERVYN View Post
    The one with the black-white-red stripes is from Trinidad and Tobago. The one with the shark mouth is from the Caribbean Regional Security System, an international agreement for the defense and security of the eastern Caribbean region. The Regional Security System was created out of a need for collective response to security threats, which were impacting on the stability of the region in the late 1970s and early 1980s. On 29 October 1982 four members of the Organization of Eastern Caribbean States—namely, Antigua and Barbuda, Dominica, St. Lucia, and St. Vincent and the Grenadines—signed a memorandum of understanding (MOU) with Barbados to provide for "mutual assistance on request". The signatories agreed to prepare contingency plans and assist one another, on request, in national emergencies, prevention of smuggling, search and rescue, immigration control, fishery protection, customs and excise control, maritime policing duties, protection of off-shore installations, pollution control, national and other disasters and threats to national security. Saint Kitts and Nevis joined following independence in 1983, and Grenada followed two years later after Operation Urgent Fury, a combined U.S. and RSS invasion of the country. The MOU was updated in 1992 and the system acquired juridical status on 5 March 1996 under the Treaty which was signed at St. Georges, Grenada. The RSS initially started as a U.S. instrument to combat the spread of Communism in the Caribbean region. As of 2001, the RSS further cooperates with the CARICOM Regional Task Force on Crime and Security (CRTFCS).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    I am translating my website into English and have it updated at the same time. It will take a lot of time for it will be done. A few countries are ready and published. The Dutch version is still up to date!

    http://www.drareg.nl/ROTWweb/index.html

    A question about Angola: What is the most recent one. Are they still using the one with the star or not.
    No star in the current roundel.

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    Montenegro Police Gazelle :



    https://flagspot.net/images/c/cs-cg%5Eaf.gif
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    Quote Originally Posted by gkozak View Post
    No star in the current roundel.
    thanks

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    Barbados or better the RSS:
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    Trinidad and Tobago
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    On the plane it has some kind of wings to the sides. Anyone a better picture of those?

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    and the latest from T and T
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    On the plane it has some kind of wings to the sides. Anyone a better picture of those?
    other view of a Faichild C-26B :


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    Syrian Meteor :


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    Cameroon (different periods) :

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    "Special" Zimbabwean marking on pre-delivery Hawk :


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    Military aircraft Insignia of the World - John Cochrane/Stewart
    Crecy Publications
    GBP 14.95
    Pp 142

    Books on aircraft roundels are very rare - almost none in the last 15 years .Hence this is a real labour of passion and it has taken almost 15 years since the publication of the first edition with the same name and by the same authors by Airlife - for a publisher to finally release an update on this exotic subject.

    If ever you wondered on all the historical roundels for a particular country and where could you look it up - this is the one book which has it all.

    Its In glorious full colour - and comprises around 142 Pp (the authors originally planned a detailed 2 volume which Crecy compressed into a single volume but the above cover is not fully correct as its no longer A-K - depicts all the latest roundels for all the countries including all the notable historical roundels for countries which no longer exist like Katanga , Biafra etc approx 500 + in all - the opening description of Afghanistan with around 9 historical roundels and a 2 Page history sets up a nice opening.

    The new roundels include Abkhazia, Iraqi Air Force ,Chad ,Afghanistan etc - lots of new roundels are added .

    However instead of diagrams and artwork profiles as in the earlier edition by Airlife - the updated edition features instead colour pictures (some are very tiny and unclear) - and the book loses one star as the diagrams in the previous edition also depicted the fin flashes which is missing and a real disappointment for me and i will need to retain the first edition due to the diagrams.

    For some of the countries like South Sudan and Kurdistan , the authors state that the national flag is used - would have been appropriate to display the flag instead of keeping it blank . Another comment is that for all the roundels currently in service , the entry date is omitted .

    - Most of the text also could have done with an update from the first edition (example for India) and some of the navy roundels are also missing again .Some countries like Afghanistan, italy and Turkey are covered more comprehensively than others - though from personal research and i think there are more historical roundels for Bulgaria than shown.

    i think the book could have done with another 50 Pp if the publisher had done more justice included more photographs or artwork profiles and the authors included diagrams to show the fin flashes . Also it should have been published in a bigger size like the first edition done by Airlife - nevertheless i am quite excited as its a long awaited update on this esoteric topic and a must buy.
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    many thanks, Krishna,...for your comments about that book ...

    Military aircraft Insignia of the World - John Cochrane/Stewart
    but what about THE mysterious roundel of TCHAD ?

    see the posts 754, 760, & 768 in the Small A/F thread (p 26)

    I'd like to know..

    friendly,

    Etienne
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    Quote Originally Posted by KERVYN View Post
    but what about THE mysterious roundel of TCHAD ?

    see the posts 754, 760, & 768 in the Small A/F thread (p 26)

    I'd like to know..

    friendly,

    Etienne
    What is confusing you? With the roundels on the wing: On the Chad roundel the blue part is facing the fuselage, on the Czech roundel, the blue is facing forward. Always! So There is a difference.

    But for something different: Algeria
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    New operator of the Fulcrum - Armee De L'Air Tchadienne

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    It seems they are back to the original roundel again.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    It seems they are back to the original roundel again.
    Have you seen other aircrafts than the Su-25 with "Czech-like" roundels ?
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    Old China (1930) :

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    Have you seen other aircrafts than the Su-25 with "Czech-like" roundels ?
    NO, indeed !!!

    friendly, Etienne

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    Quote Originally Posted by archangelski View Post
    "Special" Zimbabwean marking on pre-delivery Hawk :

    Nothing to do with pre delivery markings. This RAF Hawk T1 was painted, along with a dozen others, to represent the countries then flying the Hawk, think it was Farnborough 2004, probably to celebrate the thirty anniversary of Hawks first flight

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    Quote Originally Posted by CADman View Post
    Nothing to do with pre delivery markings. This RAF Hawk T1 was painted, along with a dozen others, to represent the countries then flying the Hawk, think it was Farnborough 2004, probably to celebrate the thirty anniversary of Hawks first flight
    Thanks for info. It would have been better if more real markings were applied.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archangelski View Post
    Have you seen other aircrafts than the Su-25 with "Czech-like" roundels ?
    No, and I don't think there are any others flying with it. But it is Chad alright, the reason why it's different ... maybe we will never know.

    It's like the Ukraine L-39 with the Maltesian cross on it. Why was that for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERVYN View Post
    but what about THE mysterious roundel of TCHAD ?

    see the posts 754, 760, & 768 in the Small A/F thread (p 26)

    I'd like to know..

    friendly,

    Etienne

    Hi Etienne


    I checked the book - it shows the czech style roundel for Chad as we have seen on the Su 25 pcitures in Tom Cooper's African Migs Vol as well

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    The L-39 with the Malta -like cross as roundel
    Many answers are given but why it is standing there with other Ukraine L-39s never was cleared. Well as in the first posting it was said to be Ukraine. And now I found this pic: Click image for larger version. 

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