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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
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    Sometimes while searching the internet you find strange things. For example, why the combination of a Zimbabwe roundel with a China flag on this Percival P.56 Provost ?
    Read the answer here:

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Zimba...Efb9A/k9Prs%3D

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flyer View Post
    This?
    Donated to China Aviation Museum by Zimbabwe Air Force. Ex RAF serial XF851, delivered to Southern Rhodesia (nowZimbabwe) 4 Nov 1954 as SR142, later RRAF305. Withdrawn from service in Zimbabwe in 1977
    Still does not explain the flag on the tail. If I had a donated aircraft for my museum I would preserve it in the last state and not add my own countries flag on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    This?

    Still does not explain the flag on the tail. If I had a donated aircraft for my museum I would preserve it in the last state and not add my own countries flag on it.
    It, apparently, has not always had the same decoration (or the two sides are not similar) :

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Zimba...wL7/AMMeNe4%3D

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    Quote Originally Posted by archangelski View Post
    It, apparently, has not always had the same decoration (or the two sides are not similar) :

    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Zimba...wL7/AMMeNe4%3D
    now that is a museum aircraft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerard View Post
    Still does not explain the flag on the tail. If I had a donated aircraft for my museum I would preserve it in the last state and not add my own countries flag on it.
    You mean like this?


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    It's the one on Wright Patterson which is painted in some early Russian camo supposely, but for me it looks like a plastic model.

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    Yeah, it's an ex-Moldovan example.. the "job" they have made to this bird is just horrendous..

    Last edited by MSphere; 28th March 2017 at 21:06.

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    Is this another misinterpretation of a Chinese roundel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by KERVYN View Post
    many thanks, GREGG, for your trying !!

    impatient to know ..& to see it !!

    friendly yours,

    ETIENNE (Kervyn)
    I received a reply- see below, from Lord Steven G.P. Baikie KGCRO., ADC, DSF., RHRL., Dip.Eng. (Electronics), Earl of Tankerness, Aide de Camp to HRH Prince Graeme, Sovereign, Acting Minister of Electronic Communications, FM - RHRL Command HQ, Inspector General, Diplomatic Security Force!

    I think the insignia on the fuselage of the Aero Subaru is the image attached with red bars.


    Dear Sir

    Thank you for your email.

    I am afraid that we are unable to help with your request as we have little information about the Royal Hutt River Air Force which was mothballed many years ago.
    You can find some of the insignia shown on the home page of the RHRDF here http://www.principality-hutt-river.org/rhrdf/index.htm

    I do thank you for the photograph and will now place it into our RHRDF archives, it would be useful to know who owns that photo if it is known and any information that you may have about it.

    One of my interests is that I have, for some years now, been digitizing all that I can find concerning our past and present activities and assembling all into the PHR digital archives so now it is my turn to ask if you have any further information regarding the RHRAF at all, I would very much appreciate the information/photo's/names etc so that I can record them into the archives.

    As you can see in the RHRDF section of our website, we have nothing of the RHRAF, that section does not exist because all the info of that era is lost or at least has not come to light as yet. Whilst our Army and Navy has maintained an active existence for many years the air force was short lived simply because of no need for it and few members had any aircraft so the force was disbanded as it became something that people simply wanted for their own ego purposes, to be an air force officer.

    I do have a couple of RHRAF wings in my collection, a scan of one is attached and in the PHR on-line stamp collection you can find a couple of special philatelic covers concerning the PHR air force, the catalogue is here:..
    http://principality-hutt-river.com/g..._Catalogue.htm
    You will note the use of two names for our nation, Hutt River Province (Principality), the HRP being the name when we first seceded and before the Royal Family was established, the original position of Prince Leonard being the administrator. When it was decided to form the Royal Family (for legal reasons) the "Province" became a "Principality" so the nations name changed to the Principality of Hutt River. Unfortunately we were so well known as the HRP that we tended to continue using the original name, this led to a lot of confusion so a number of years ago it was decreed that the name to use must be the Principality of Hutt River ( PHR), unless historical context required the HRP to be used. You will see the two names used in the Military arena so early badges etc were of the HRP and newer of the PHR.

    I trust that maybe I have provided a small amount of additionmal knowledge for you and I would very much appreciate any further info that you may have.
    I would like to use this latest photo but would want the name of the photo owner ofif possible so that I can assign credit to it.

    I look forward to hearing further from you.


    Regards
    Lord Baikie

    Lord Steven G.P. Baikie KGCRO., ADC, DSF., RHRL., Dip.Eng. (Electronics)
    Earl of Tankerness
    Aide de Camp to HRH Prince Graeme, Sovereign.
    Acting Minister of Electronic Communications
    FM - RHRL Command HQ
    Inspector General, Diplomatic Security Force

    Principality of Hutt River
    Via Western Australia 6535
    E-Mail: phr.adc@principality-hutt-river.org
    Website www.principality-hutt-river.org/gov
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    I think the insignia on the fuselage of the Aero Subaru is the image attached with red bars.
    I don't think so.

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    but I admit that it's close.

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    Only for fun, belgian Federal Police F-16AM : Happy April 1st :

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    Thumbs up HUTT RIVER continued...

    Well, I also sent an e-mail to their Principality...

    & ... the answer was 'a little bit different' ;

    1 avr.

    Greetings

    Thank you for your email which has been forwarded for attention of HRH Prince Graeme’s Aide de Camp Lord Steven G.P. Baikie for his attention/action.


    Regards

    PHR STAFF

    Principality of Hutt River
    Via Western Australia 6535
    E-Mail: huttriver@principality-hutt-river.com
    Website www.principality-hutt-river.com



    What do you think about, Greg & Gerard ??

    TO BE CONTINUED ??

    friendly yours,

    ETIENNE

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    Hutt River THE END !!!

    I've just seen in my mail-box the (same !) final reply !!!


    Thank you for your email.

    I am afraid that we are unable to help with your request as we have little information about the Royal Hutt River Air Force which was mothballed many years ago.
    You can find some of the insignia shown on the home page of the RHRDF here http://www.principality-hutt-river.org/rhrdf/index.htm

    I did receive an almost word for word request from another enthusiast with the same photo less than a week ago.
    One of my interests is that I have, for some years now, been digitizing all that I can find concerning our past and present activities and assembling all into the PHR digital archives so now it is my turn to ask if you have any further information regarding the RHRAF at all, I would very much appreciate the information/photo's/names etc so that I can record them into the archives.

    As you can see in the RHRDF section of our website, we have nothing of the RHRAF, that section does not exist because all the info of that era is lost or at least has not come to light as yet. Whilst our Army and Navy has maintained an active existence for many years the air force was short lived simply because of no need for it and few members had any aircraft so the force was disbanded as it became something that people simply wanted for their own ego purposes, to be an air force officer.

    I do have a couple of RHRAF wings in my collection, a scan of one is attached and in the PHR on-line stamp collection you can find a couple of special philatelic covers concerning the PHR air force, the catalogue is here:..

    http://principality-hutt-river.com/g..._Catalogue.htm
    You will note the use of two names for our nation, Hutt River Province (Principality), the HRP being the name when we first seceded and before the Royal Family was established, the original position of Prince Leonard being the administrator. When it was decided to form the Royal Family (for legal reasons) the "Province" became a "Principality" so the nations name changed to the Principality of Hutt River. Unfortunately we were so well known as the HRP that we tended to continue using the original name, this led to a lot of confusion so a number of years ago it was decreed that the name to use must be the Principality of Hutt River ( PHR), unless historical context required the HRP to be used. You will see the two names used in the Military arena so early badges etc were of the HRP and newer of the PHR.

    I trust that maybe I have provided a small amount of additional knowledge for you and I would very much appreciate any further info that you may have.
    I would like to use this latest photo but would want the name of the photo owner if possible so that I can assign credit to it.

    I look forward to hearing further from you.


    Regards
    Lord Baikie






    What a pity.... for such a 'State ' !!!

    all the best to you, Dear Guys,, but without them now

    friendly,

    Etienne

    PS ; & such one for my 800th post !!

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    indeed, such a pity. Well, live goes on. We will find other stuff to wonder about..


    and Etienne, congrats with the 800th.

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    WW1, a crude painted roundel. details unknown

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    edit, found more:

    Nowadays it isn't any better

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    the MFO !!

    Proficiat, Gerard, ik heb nog iets bijgeleerd !!

    but, let's remain 'British' !!!

    also exists in English :http://mfo.org/en

    friendly ,

    ETIENNE

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    Mixed roundels on German captured aircraft :


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    more from: "that aircraft never flew with that air force!" or did it?

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    SM-92 with Italian and Malta roundels (post war) :

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    sometimes it takes ages to find something. Like this Belarus with the flag used from 1991 to 1995.

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    more pictures welcome

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    The Belarus Tu-134A is a fantastic find! I had no idea that they had an older insignia.

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    Decals for the Belarus Tu-134A!
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    Another Belarus Tu-134 pix sorry about quality.

    Chris
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    Another picture of the Tu-134A. Also, it looks like CCCP-65082 was originally a Soviet Aeroflot aircraft!
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    I think a posting is missing after the mishap.

    If I remember well the question was of there were no military aircraft wit the flag? Or was it only used on the Tu-134?

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    I know it is a replica but it has the 1st USA roundel

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    Indonesia navy roundel with different anchors

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