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    WORLD AIR FORCE ROUNDELS

    this was the cover of the AFM magazine n°4/2000;

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    it included a fine & large poster -I still have it- of the roundels of all the Air Forces in the world (of then).

    But I'd like to know if a another poster has been published more recently.

    In order to check my own updated list of the 171 world's Air Forces existing now.. (I can post it in this forum..)

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    I never saw a newer one.

    My roundel site here: http://www.drareg.nl/Markeringen/index.html

    Sorry, in dutch only!

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    Smile AIR FORCES ROUNDELS

    many thanks, GERARD, for your really interesting & extended website;

    I still have to discover all the many details !!

    (see also my comment (in Dutch) in your p.m. box )

    friendly yours,

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    AIR FORCES OF THE WORLD

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    Well, after comparing the many pages of GERARD's website with my -also-many 'papers', I can conclude -temporarily ?-
    for the number of existing Air Forces.

    The first question is, of course, how many countries do exist ?
    The reply is "evident" ; 195 !
    At first, the 193 members of the U.N. ;
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Member_...United_Nations
    + Taiwan + Vatican
    Right ?
    OK !

    Some (17)(mini-) countries don't have any military aircraft;
    Andorra, Liechtenstein, Monaco, San-Marino, Vatican, Sao-Tome & Principe, Bhutan, East-Timor,
    Kiribati, Marshall-Islands, Micronesia, Nauru, Palau, Samoa, Salomon-Islands, Tuvalu, Vanuatu

    All comments are welcome !!

    And these 7 Caribbean islands may be considered as having -individually- no own ones ; www.vi.ngb.army.mil/html/J5_J7/rss.html

    THUS 171 countries have an Air Force

    And this may be an appeal to the AFM Editor ;

    Your previous roundels-poster was of 2000, ; don't you think it's time to consider the possibility of a newer '2012' edition ??


    It would be great !

    Sincerely & friendly yours,

    Etienne

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    I agree


    @ Etienne:

    Thank you for your comments and advice.

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    Excellent site

    AFM in 1999 had also released a similar poster - but for some reason this was not thought to be popular and discontinued -also hope it comes back as its long overdue

    Air Zone in France published a similar poster a few years back but a bit rare to find

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    Once could make their own?

    Handy with Photoshop, Illustrator, or even the GIMP? Wikipedia has free SVG/PNG files of each nation's roundel. Put them together, publish...

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    If you want a very simple site then yes, get the roundels from wikipedia and your done. But if you want a to publish all the roundels and the nummerous variations you have to do a liitle more than that.

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    Majority of the images are in the public domain. Be sure of that and you'll be fine.

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    The Best updates aviation roundels site is

    http://www.aircraft-insignia.com/ -

    this is by the peerless John Cochrane who wrote the best book on aircraft roundels in 1998 published by Airlife

    The site is updated with new roundels from Libya etc - check it out

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    ROUNDELS.... continued !

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    the site proposed in the previous post is ... not bad !

    but I had some surprises ; Angola, e.g. !

    and some are missing : the new ones of Montenegro, South-Sudan, etc...

    Here is another site (updated in ... 1996 )

    http://cocardes.monde.online.fr (also in English)

    Maybe the next presented site will be THE perfect one ? !

    friendly yours,

    Etienne

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    Cool Good News

    Finally after a lot of emails etc when nothing much worked - the power and impact of the social media and Facebook where AFM has a page had its effect.

    After numerous appeals and a fantastic 25 years AFM Fighter aircraft poster - AFM is coming out with a roundels of the world poster in the sept 2013 issue after a wait of almost 13 years - hope its worth the wait

    In another crazy development - Crecy/Hikoki is releasing John Cochrane's updated Military Roundels book in 2 volumes - first volume in Oct 2013 - can't wait http://forum.keypublishing.com/images/icons/icon6.png

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    I am translating my website into English and have it updated at the same time. It will take a lot of time for it will be done. A few countries are ready and published. The Dutch version is still up to date!

    http://www.drareg.nl/ROTWweb/index.html

    A question about Angola: What is the most recent one. Are they still using the one with the star or not.

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    Congratulations, Gerard !

    continue so,

    & much success,

    friendly, Etienne

    (I'll look for Angola)

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    Thanks for the different links guys !

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    For all those who bought the print copy of the latest AFM sept 2013 (the E-version does not carry the poster ) and drooled over the World air force Roundels poster - its a fantastic treat - with all the roundels in their resplendent glory - thankfully the low viz roundels have been removed

    A couple of questions - Is the roundel for Rwanda correct ? it shows a flag wheras what i had earlier was a roundel

    The roundels for Somalia and South Sudan(?) seem to be missing and the navy seem roundels are incomplete for most countries

    but otherwise well done - even if its taken 13 years for an update

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    Smile AFM of September !!!

    it was only this morning, Krishna, I read your yesterday post with THE good news of the month (of the year..!)

    I'm just back from my favourite bookshop... & now I have it in my hands ... (the poster, the other 100 pages will have to wait )

    At first, MANY THANKS to the Editor ! Sincerely !



    here you see a partly view of it ; (comments in my next post ..)
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    AFM World Air Forces POSTER...

    Now I try to compare that poster with my situation of last year (see post #4 in this thread..)

    Then were -IMO- 171 Air Forces............BUT I didn't count the RSS, nor deduct the 5 'historic ones ; Haiti, Fiji, Tonga, Somalia & Liberia... THUS >> 167 Air Forces

    In the new poster there are 171 insignia !!

    BUT.....;
    there are in fact 'some' differences between the two....

    Let's see ... * to deduct ; 6 Navies & 1 Army (we are in Air Forces...!) (= 7)

    .................. * to forget ; Abkhazia & Bhutan (= 2)

    ................... * are missing (= 5) ;Cape Verde, Comores, Gambia, South Sudan, & Iceland

    .(just to remember....historic ones ) ; Haiti, Fiji, Tonga & Somalia, Liberia (comments are welcome..)


    in the new situation, it means ; 171 -9 + 5 = 167 !!

    (would be better : ; Barbados >> RSS !!!
    ..........................; NATO >> Luxemburg
    not correct ; Angola, Seychelles, Monténégro,....) (see Gerard's views )

    ..................>>>THUS, the final comparison is fully CORRECT....>>> 167 Air Forces



    friendly, Etienne
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    Comments /Rwanda ;

    see the 'new' markings ;
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    Comments / RSS

    about "Barbados Defence Force" ; forget it, a replace it by RSS ;http://www.vi.ngb.army.mil/html/J5_J7/rss.html

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    Good Analysis

    Kervyn - my compliments - very good analysis in such a short time - you must be a big enthusiast like me

    I have been informed by AFM in another forum that the misisng country roundels is due to "no aircraft" in those countries

    Can you point out what is wrong with the roundels of ; Angola, Seychelles, Monténégro ?

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    Angola
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    Thanks Gerard - this is very useful

    On a diff note - this is like manna from heaven -

    Military Aircraft Insignia of the World: Volume 1: A-K

    check it out - the long awaited second edition from John Cochrane

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/Military-Air...=john+cochrane

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    ONE MORE LINK

    From the publishers Crecy -

    http://www.crecy.co.uk/military-airc...world-volume-1

    it will be good if folks interested in roundels can drop a mail to Crecy querying on the release date of the same

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    Unhappy COMMENTS/ "no aircraft" ?

    I have been informed by AFM in another forum that the misisng country roundels is due to "no aircraft" in those countries
    Well... it's NOT really true ;

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    .................................................. ................... Liberia ; http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:...ce_Roundel.svg (i have a good 'paper' pic of a Cessna 208 with that marking: on request )

    see on airliners.net for the other missing ones ; Iceland Coast Guard ; # 1548527 ( + many other ones)

    .................................................. ...............; Luxemburg ; (oldie !); # 2282709
    .................................................. ...............................& Lux/NATO ; # 2090653

    ...................................the newest country ; South Sudan ,; see post # 165 in ;http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...hread-15/page6

    I've made an error in my post # 18, sorry ; I counted twice 'Liberia'.... ( Liberia WAS a 'mini' A/F...)



    Yes, Krishna, I'm also a big enthusiast ..

    friendly, Etienne
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    Last edited by Gerard; 23rd August 2013 at 13:29.

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    thanks, Gerard, all the 'missing' & historic A/F are ALSO in your excellent site !!

    (for Krishna ; Cape Verde = Kaapverdië )

    friendly, Etienne

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    Quote Originally Posted by KERVYN View Post
    thanks, Gerard, all the 'missing' & historic A/F are ALSO in your excellent site !!

    (for Krishna ; Cape Verde = Kaapverdië )

    friendly, Etienne
    Kervyn and Gerard - you've been very helpful - many thanks

    one more query - did the Tamil Tigers (LTTE) have any airforce roundels - been unable to locate this - this is one more to add to historic A/F list

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    see the CORRECTIVE version of my post # 18 !! >> 167 Air Forces !

    friendly, Etienne

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