RuAF News and Development Thread 9

**haavarla** · 10th June 2012, 00:38

Mid 2012 and no news about the Pak-FA 51 and 53.
Awaiting another batch of Su-35S and Su-34 this year.
Two Su-30SM should reach test flight this year.
Su-25BM upgrade are under way.
30 Tu-22M3(M5?) upgrade under way.
10 more Tu-160 upgrade planned.

Stay Tuned for further info.

**haavarla** · 10th June 2012, 00:40

What was the problem with this Tu-22M3? Hydralics/flaps malfunction?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWzc...eature=related

The landing speed are way too fast..

**TR1** · 10th June 2012, 00:56

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/253797.html

Rostvertol getting ready to hand over 4 Mi-28Ns to RuAF. Airbase likely to be Korenovsk; these are the first of the type built for the RuAF in 2012.

**haavarla** · 10th June 2012, 11:16

A nice Mig-29 vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_eyO...feature=g-vrec

**Berkut** · 10th June 2012, 11:55

Originally Posted by haavarla

30 Tu-33M3(M5?) upgrade under way.

Apparently it is called Tu-22M3M (retarded)

Originally Posted by haavarla

What was the problem with this Tu-22M3? Hydralics/flaps malfunction?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bYWzc...eature=related

The landing speed are way too fast..

Yes, malfunction. Speed was 410 at one point.

**WinterStars** · 10th June 2012, 18:12

Russia to field a new Patrol Aircraft for the Arctic.
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15303

**WinterStars** · 10th June 2012, 18:24

PD 14 goes into testing. Another Milestone for MTA/Il214
http://en.ria.ru/business/20120605/173864951.html

**JangBoGo** · 10th June 2012, 18:56

Originally Posted by WinterStars

Russia to field a new Patrol Aircraft for the Arctic.
http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=15303

so we can expect to finally see a Tu-204 based patrol aircraft. Good. This would have happened earlier if IN had gone for it instead of the P8I.

**haavarla** · 11th June 2012, 17:07

JangBogo@
Looks like the SSJ-100 is one of the aircraft in this.

http://barentsobserver.com/en/securi...russian-arctic

I wonder if there actuall will be an domestic Tender?

**Twinblade** · 12th June 2012, 02:11

Originally Posted by haavarla

A nice Mig-29 vid.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_eyO...feature=g-vrec

This belongs to the "flying low" thread

**TR1** · 12th June 2012, 21:01

Su-35 weapons trials continuing.

**haavarla** · 12th June 2012, 21:53

Interesting..
That is A2G missiles. Kh-31P, PD or PM with Ram jet propulsion?

Maks2011 in the back ground?

**Berkut** · 13th June 2012, 00:12

Anyone else who cant click on other pages in Russianplanes.net? Page 2 etc here: http://russianplanes.net/F!B!T!A!C!D...0!V!P7!REG!SER

**TR1** · 13th June 2012, 01:20

Yes, they are still working out their issues.

**Austin** · 13th June 2012, 07:36

Originally Posted by JangBoGo

so we can expect to finally see a Tu-204 based patrol aircraft.

Depends what they want , Tu-214 would likely replace the Tu-142M if they plan to replace that for now but SSJ-100 will be a good replacement for IL-38N , with additional fuel in special configuration they can easily fly for 5 plus hours atleast.

Tu-214SUS in special configuration have endurance of 14 hours unrefulled and i read they have been tested with 13 hours of non-stop flying.

SSJ should make a decent replacement for IL-38 while Tu-214 can replace the Tu-142M.

**JangBoGo** · 13th June 2012, 08:34

^^^
@ Autsin,

Yes, Tu-214 have demonstrated its capability and it has to be rightful successor to IL-38 & Tu-142 even though it wont be able to match the Tu-142s in range. But Payload wise and range, Tu-204 based aircraft looks like the better option.

I don't know why they are even considering the SSJ-100. There is no SSJ-100-90 (hope designation is correct) or the long-ranged version of SSJ-100 in any physical form yet. Even if it does exist, it is too far below the capability of Tu-204 which can carry in excess of 24+ tons of payload.

SSJ won't make a good replacement of the IL-38s, they have much greater ranger with their payload than what SSJ can offer.

I suspect that its again the case of Sukhoi's political hand that is doing the behind the scene work to push it down the service throat and increase upon their orders and profit.

Btw, the original designation of Tu-214 is Tu-204-200 and Tu-204-120 is meant for the Tu-204 with RR engines.

@ haavarla

My personal opinion is negative on the SSJ-100 option. I'd be glad to see it kicked out from the option. Either Tu-204 based or A-40 based.

**JangBoGo** · 13th June 2012, 08:40

Its suppose to be a MAI concept. How about something like this for Tu-22M3 replacement?

It looks to have shaped inlet, and flat nozzles in addition to the seemingly large weapons bay between the engine inlets.

2 x 25T engines would be fine. Any more info?

**TR1** · 13th June 2012, 19:23

http://bmpd.livejournal.com/260551.html

Not really Russian, but sad news nonetheless.
TAPO is going to cease aircraft production.

**Trident** · 14th June 2012, 15:28

RIVET-JOINTski has re-surfaced at Zhukovsky:

http://russianplanes.net/id79489

Good view of top side fairings which were not visible on previous images.

**JangBoGo** · 14th June 2012, 15:54

^^^
Is this the second Tu-214R

Just a nice pic...

how many A-50 has been upgraded till now?

**WinterStars** · 14th June 2012, 19:00

Putin reiterated the bomber necessity
http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20120614/174031126.html

**Berkut** · 14th June 2012, 20:21

Su-34 assembly.

http://gelio-nsk.livejournal.com/172070.html

**TR1** · 15th June 2012, 18:06

http://russianplanes.net/id79521

A 9-12 still in service.

**Berkut** · 15th June 2012, 18:38

Ahem. That one is not flying, and will never fly again. And there is plenty other 9.12's in service, that actually flies.

**TR1** · 15th June 2012, 18:46

Originally Posted by Berkut

Ahem. That one is not flying, and will never fly again. And there is plenty other 9.12's in service, that actually flies.

What is the basis for this conclusion?

**Berkut** · 15th June 2012, 19:23

Bases is that it is an instructional frame, like the rest of these:

http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=1...postcount=2253

**TR1** · 15th June 2012, 19:25

Originally Posted by Berkut

Bases is that it is an instructional frame, like the rest of these:

http://aviaforum.ru/showpost.php?p=1...postcount=2253

Ah.
Why did they even bother with BBC on the tail...

**martinez** · 15th June 2012, 20:50

Originally Posted by TR1

Ah.
Why did they even bother with BBC on the tail...

It`s a vinyl sticker, probably caring students....

. I agree, it doesnt seem to be flightworthy judging from the appearance and wear, the 9.12 with 20year lifetime should look overhauled in 2012....
http://russianplanes.net/id52551
http://russianplanes.net/id51440

**mack8** · 17th June 2012, 14:02

Latest from LII.

MiG-29M2
http://russianplanes.net/id79624
http://russianplanes.net/id79545

Yak-130
http://russianplanes.net/id79622

...and some hellducks too.

Su-34
http://russianplanes.net/id79553
http://russianplanes.net/id79556
http://russianplanes.net/id79628

**Flanker_man** · 17th June 2012, 18:22

Originally Posted by mack8

Latest
Su-34
http://russianplanes.net/id79553
http://russianplanes.net/id79556
http://russianplanes.net/id79628

Thanks for the links mack8.

It looks like there already some structural mods to the 'Hellducks' - on the starboard fin and near the canard mounts.

Ken

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