New J-20 Photos Show Possible AESA radar version

[70RFU]

This site has some new close-ups of the second prototype 2002 and makes the observation that the different location of the pitot tubes suggests that the chinese have installed a AESA radar in the second prototype of the J-20

see here : http://is.gd/4sG2mv

[haavarla]

Different Pitot tube location = AESA installed.. Wow, great logic here.

How about this:

Pitot tube removed = AESA or any radar installed.

[MSphere]

I'd say that the pure presence of a pitot tube on the radome clearly indicates there is no AESA radar installed there, at all.... but feel free to believe this BS if you want.

I just fail to see why this deserves an entirely new thread..
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...=112357&page=1

[Freehand]

I'd say that the pure presence of a pitot tube on the radome clearly indicates there is no AESA radar installed there, at all.... but feel free to believe this BS if you want.

I just fail to see why this deserves an entirely new thread..
http://forum.keypublishing.co.uk/sho...=112357&page=1

How many J-20 threads are there?

[emile]

It will be as many as the propagating J-20 by one premeditated.

[J-20 Hotdog]

This site has some new close-ups of the second prototype 2002 and makes the observation that the different location of the pitot tubes suggests that the chinese have installed a AESA radar in the second prototype of the J-20

see here : http://is.gd/4sG2mv

lol

F-35 no radar


F-35 with radar



Pak-fa no radar


Pak-fa radar


see the difference?

[70RFU]

Opinions , opinions are like noses ...everyone has one

[seahawk]

Early prototype - later prototype - see the difference?

[WinterStars]

Better move this to original J 20 thread.

[MSphere]

Opinions , opinions are like noses ...everyone has one

Yep, everyone has one and yours is utterly wrong.

[foxmulder]

A pitot tube does not rule out of the existence of a radar.

[J-20 Hotdog]

A pitot tube does not rule out of the existence of a radar.

indeed, it could have a mechanically scanned one inside instead.

[djcross]

A pitot tube does not rule out of the existence of a radar.

A pitot tube, the electric wires for pitot heaters, and the pneumatic lines associated with the remotely located air data sensors would destroy an AESA's ability to form a coherent beam or accurately determine where return RF energy is coming from (pointing error).

[Tigershark]

foreign country jealous China can make stealth fighter with AESA already. Some other countries cannot even get that far with their own stealth fighter.

[djcross]

foreign country jealous China can make stealth fighter with AESA already. Some other countries cannot even get that far with their own stealth fighter.

The laws of physics do not change, even for the PLAAF.

[MSphere]

foreign country jealous China can make stealth fighter with AESA already. Some other countries cannot even get that far with their own stealth fighter.

The only jealousy I can see here is the one of Chinese fanboys fighting their inferiority complex by inventing BS stories.

Face it, there is no radar on the 2002. It's a prototype meant for flight testing, hardly more than an empty hull plus two engines. The only thing that is working there is FBW and some rudimentary MMI.

[Deino]

May I ask a moderator to calm down this group of new "Chinese fan boys" PLAESE !!???

It's nearly impossible to argue, either they ignore substantial posts or they simply post another list of their only "sources" from Wikipedia and fyjs-fan posts ... and most of all in that way no kind of discussion is possible any longer.

With all due respect I think it's anoying how the quality of this forum went down during the last months ....

Deino

[foxmulder]

indeed, it could have a mechanically scanned one inside instead.

That was my point

[MSphere]

Who would install a complete avionics suite on an aircraft that has flown just few dozens of flights in one prototype before? Get real, guys..

[Tigershark]

Who would install a complete avionics suite on an aircraft that has flown just few dozens of flights in one prototype before? Get real, guys..

it is no prototype because in China many thing is secret. that mean when the photo of airplane is flying, that mean it is not really the first time but more advance stage ready to show to the publics. prototype of J-20 was already starting in secret away from photographer. the model flying is the preproductions model. that why J-20 flying in full paint and markings and radar not unpaint like Russian stealth jet.

maybe in 2015 we see first squadron of J-20 while russian stealth jet have to go through the redesigns because its body is breaking. maybe 2025 for them. American JSF also 2020 because of money problem

[MSphere]

it is no prototype because in China many thing is secret. that mean when the photo of airplane is flying, that mean it is not really the first time but more advance stage ready to show to the publics. prototype of J-20 was already starting in secret away from photographer. the model flying is the preproductions model. that why J-20 flying in full paint and markings and radar not unpaint like Russian stealth jet.

maybe in 2015 we see first squadron of J-20 while russian stealth jet have to go through the redesigns because its body is breaking. maybe 2025 for them. American JSF also 2020 because of money problem

Yawn.
1. It is just a prototype. It can do exactly three things - take-off, fly and land. A good start but still years before it can even fire the most basic A-A missile.
2. Russian stealth jets, too have full paint and markings, and still are just prototypes



3. Chinese officials themselves admit the J-20 would not be entering service before 2018, good luck with your 2015 date.

Got more BS you need debunked? Let's hear it.

[TR1]

Don't bother, he is a joke.

[mack8]

Didn't wanted to reply here , becasue this thread is really useless( based on what i can read here ) , but i'll just say that me i HOPE J-20 will achieve IOC before 2018, just to make the yanks more gealous and be proven wrong once more.

Btw , i know the yanks say J-20 won't get into service before 2018, but MSphere can you point me to the chinese source saying the same ? Thanks.

[Ocean Boy]

Didn't wanted to reply here , becasue this thread is really useless( based on what i can read here ) , but i'll just say that me i HOPE J-20 will achieve IOC before 2018, just to make the yanks more gealous and be proven wrong once more.

Btw , i know the yanks say J-20 won't get into service before 2018, but MSphere can you point me to the chinese source saying the same ? Thanks.

that would still be better than F-35's schedule, with IOC after 2020 given full production is delayed again to 2019 http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-0...velopment.html

[Deino]

Don't bother, he is a joke.

Actually as bad as the other tread where these two fan boys post all there wiki-based stuff !

CAN finally a moderator PLAESE intervene and stop these TROLLS !?????

Deino

[rsetiawan]

Didn't wanted to reply here , becasue this thread is really useless( based on what i can read here ) , but i'll just say that me i HOPE J-20 will achieve IOC before 2018, just to make the yanks more gealous and be proven wrong once more.

Btw , i know the yanks say J-20 won't get into service before 2018, but MSphere can you point me to the chinese source saying the same ? Thanks.

If you want ur squadron flight a plane that might have unknown crack, have no radar, have malnutrited engines, have avionic unwired then the plane can have IOC before 2018....
unfortunately high brass of PLAAF dont want this so they put optimistic date of 2018 and still expect their precalculated few years delay...

[Tigershark]

J-10 was much older than what reported the first time in west. same for j-20