Advisory - Spitfire MJ772 - incident - no injuries

[redvanner]

It says the pilot was British?

@DCK:

In a German R/C forum it was said that Achim Meier was not the pilot that day, but a British pilot named Clive. I strongly believe it to be Clive Davidson, as he piloted aircraft of Air Fighter Academy Heringsdorf before. I saw him perform a perfect display at Breitscheid airshow 2010 in their Yak 9 D-FAFA.

Michael

[knifeedgeturn]

I wasn't suggesting it was the cause of the accident, just that like the planets, quite a few things need to align!

[Mark V]

Has PT462 ever ended up on her belly?

Just curious, is all. I don't recall ever seeing anything about it if it has....

Yes - many years ago - with her original owner.

[DazDaMan]

Fair enough

[92fis]

PT462 was back in October 1987 if I remember correctly.

[mackerel]

Whilst it is not a past time exclusive to (T) Spits to end up on their belly, it almost seems to be a rite of passage for restored a/c.

Is there a possibility that the positioning of the front cockpit controls, to accommodate the rear cockpit, somehow compromises the operation of the landing gear?

The IAC also had many wheels up incidents, could this be a Vickers design fault?

Given the value of a Spit and the cost of repairs, could the design authority carry out a mod for T IXs.

The undercarrage selector on a T9 is a different beast to a normal one. It sits on top of the datum longeron bracing channel. I think it is pushed forward to disengage the locks then pulled back towards pilot. I guess it could be awkward to operate as it sits next the curved cockpit combing skin.
I havnt seen a T9 with conventional selector in front cockpit ! I think Supermarine still carry the design authority.

Steve

[Sq/L Scramble.]

he's not just any tiny little man - he's a Leprechaun - it is an ex Irish Air Force Spitfire after all

Methinks no Leprechaun, but maybe the worlds first authentic photo of a real Gremlin, (making fast his escape)

[hampden98]

Can a Spitfire land one wheel down, one up? Just interested.

[CIRCUS 6]

That would be a very undesirable circumstance....

[ZRX61]

Can a Spitfire land one wheel down, one up? Just interested.

Yes, but the results would be VERY expensive...& it wouldn't be described as a "landing"

[merlin70]

I stand corrected re the IAC incidents.

Given the lack of incidents during their service life and the propensity for restored T IX's to end up on their belly, is their a need for a modification?

If so, who would design the Mod and who could approve it?

If the design authority is Supermarine, how could a proposed modification be presented to them? Where are Supermarine these days and what do they do?

Given the number of ongoing Spitfire and Seafire restorations, should a new design authority be set up with representatives from the principle restoration firms?

[Mark12]

I stand corrected re the IAC incidents.

Given the lack of incidents during their service life and the propensity for restored T IX's to end up on their belly, is their a need for a modification??

No.

Mark

[Bruce]

Given the number of ongoing Spitfire and Seafire restorations, should a new design authority be set up with representatives from the principle restoration firms?

[Mark V]

Lol, Bruce! True though!!!

[redvanner]

Regarding damage after bellylanding last week, damage on MJ772 seems to be minor, at least what is obvious by looking at this photo at MeierMotors website:

http://www.meiermotors.com/de/news.html

Michael

[David Burke]

Merlin -to have a design authority you are going to need access to engineers for stress analysis and design. That is going to incur significant cost plus a new design authority would realistically need to look at every modification done to Spitfires since Vickers Supermarine stopped supporting the type.

The design authority would effectively be taking on liability for modifications
done and that could create a lot of headaches!

[trumper]

Being rebuilt and not a technical fault
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showt...104523&page=13

[Mark V]

Being rebuilt

No, being repaired.....

[Bruce]

I think this thread has come to the end of its useful life; please refer to the Meier motors thread for subsequent information.



Bruce