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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    Speaking of the yak-130:



    ...... and now going to appear at the Royal International Air Tatto, Fairford !!!!

    http://www.airtattoo.com/airshow/New...ar-of-the-show

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    http://www.avsim.su/forum/topic/9107...0#entry2119272

    Some absolutely great photos. Including MiG-31BMs.

    http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/or/137403/2390304.jpg
    Love the aggressive lines of the MiG-31.

    http://album.foto.ru:8080/photos/or/137403/2390305.jpg

    Multiple ejector rack on Su-24?

    EDIT:
    Hmm, apparently they can carry them on the rear pylons as well:
    http://www.airliners.net/photo/Russi...24M/2045603/L/

    Nice, always though the Su-24 was small on pylon number.
    Last edited by TR1; 4th April 2012 at 20:48.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bellum View Post
    This is a reference to the new stealthy close air support aircraft(to be in service by 2020), right? So it is going to be based on Yak-130, that already has a competent strike capability.
    I wonder how Yak-130 airframe if used for light strike fighter will be stealth airframe , unless they design the new CAS aircraft from scratch
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    IAPO does not have to design anything new.
    The Yak-131 design are allready on the archive file.
    All they need is a contract deal from any customer, and a light CAS you have.
    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla View Post
    IAPO does not have to design anything new.
    The Yak-131 design are allready on the archive file.
    All they need is a contract deal from any customer, and a light CAS you have.
    The Yak-131 is good but its hardly stealthy and they mentioned by 2020 what good is it waiting till then if they dont redesign it.

    They said new CAS will be based on Su-25 if i am not wrong
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    http://www.avsim.su/forum/topic/9107...0#entry2119272

    Some absolutely great photos. Including MiG-31BMs.
    Great pictures, red 22 is a new BM for me, added to the list!

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    http://lenta.ru/news/2012/04/05/d18t/

    D-18T engines for the An-124 have begun to be repaired in Russia.
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    http://russianplanes.net/ID72280

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...v=Zsuy16NyNT0#!

    Now this is interesting: S-300 testing at night, plus UAV footage of the event.
    UAV is the new Israeli one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Austin View Post
    The Yak-131 is good but its hardly stealthy and they mentioned by 2020 what good is it waiting till then if they dont redesign it.

    They said new CAS will be based on Su-25 if i am not wrong
    As I understood the phrase, they are indeed going to do some redesigning on it to make it stealthier and more suited for the CAS role.

    The airplane was also selected as a platform for development of a light strike aircraft.

    I don't recall there being any source that said the new CAS aircraft would be based on Su-25, it was just speculation by some forum members. And, at least to my eyes, Yak-130 would need less radical changes to lower the RCS than Su-25.

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    http://russianplanes.net/ID72664

    One of the new Mi-26s.
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    The yak-130 for russian CAS?, you must be kidding...

    CAS requirements for Russia are completely different from US CAS requirements, the russian federetion has been facing the chechenian resistance, the ossetian war, these kind of wars were pretty dirty, they were not fighting some stonemen hiding in caves, neither they have the Pakistan army to do the dirty job, neither they have the time to carefully deploy an army, because the war you will fight is on the other side of the world, they need a heavy, sturdy and ready to fight CAS plane...an aircraft that can do the job with few sorties, a plane that will be ready when their forces get attacked by surprise...

    The only plane that could do the job is the Su-25, the Yak-130 is completely inadequate.

    So people really want to change that winged powerhorse , just because they believe a faceted pony will do the job as good as the 25?, they will get a very nasty awaking.
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    Quote Originally Posted by over G View Post
    The yak-130 for russian CAS?, you must be kidding...
    .......

    The only plane that could do the job is the Su-25, the Yak-130 is completely inadequate.

    So people really want to change that winged powerhorse , just because they believe a faceted pony will do the job as good as the 25?, they will get a very nasty awaking.
    I don't think that they are going to retire the Su-25 anytime soon. But we heard earlier that there is going to be a new somewhat stealthy CAS aircraft by 2020, now in a new interview Zelin said that Yak-130 is a platform for a development of a new light strike AC.
    http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...quisition-plan

    As we already know, Yak-130 itself is going to be used in strike role also(although it is mainly training AC), Su-25 is used in CAS role, there is a new stealthy CAS aircraft in development and a new light strike plane is going to be based on Yak-130, if the article on Zelin's interview is correct. I think it is just reasonable to assume that the last two are the one and the same, otherwise there would be just unnecessaryly many types of ACs for pretty much the same job.

    I certainly appreciate the ruggedness of Frogfoot, but in a modern battlefield there is a need for more sophisticated approach, Su-34 is going to the heavy hammer and a stealthified Yak-130 the lighter tool. For a Chechen-like environment there is still going to be Su-25s for quite some time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    New paintjob, sure, but I don't know if that's a new aircraft. It looks old.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vympel View Post
    New paintjob, sure, but I don't know if that's a new aircraft. It looks old.
    well, new paint job, but look at the b/n 41, already starts to disappear . Not wise to stick self-adhesive vinyl to matt finish anyway.

    btw. overhauled hippo
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    Quote Originally Posted by martinez View Post
    well, new paint job, but look at the b/n 41, already starts to disappear . Not wise to stick self-adhesive vinyl to matt finish anyway.

    btw. overhauled hippo
    the grey seems to work very well with helicopters.. not so much with the fixed wing jets..

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    One of two new Mi-26 being prepared at Rostvertol...believed to be Mi-26TZ variants (tanker - fuel supply)

    http://bmpd.livejournal.com/197735.html

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    Just wondering if anyone knows the origin of this picture and if there is any high res version available ?

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    Is that an F-15E?
    If so, i think its from MAKS 2011.
    USAF was there with F-15E, great stuff.

    The 'Vigilance skies' exercise did not see any F-15, only F-16.

    I think Flankers did visit US years ago(90s).
    If its an F-15C, its gotto to be a pretty old photo.

    Edit: Does anyone have some comparison charts of F-15 and Su-27?
    I have seen several somewhere, but don't remember where.
    I mean like acceleration and climb charts/graphs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla View Post
    Is that an F-15E?
    If so, i think its from MAKS 2011.
    USAF was there with F-15E, great stuff.

    The 'Vigilance skies' exercise did not see any F-15, only F-16.

    I think Flankers did visit US years ago(90s).
    If its an F-15C, its gotto to be a pretty old photo.
    picture is from mid nineties, Lipetsk AFB, a reciprocity visit, USAF jocks got their asses kicked again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla View Post
    Edit: Does anyone have some comparison charts of F-15 and Su-27?
    I have seen several somewhere, but don't remember where.
    I mean like acceleration and climb charts/graphs.
    Here's two.
    If you know what they say, please elaborate
    One thing is sure, there isn't much difference and each jet has its advantages.
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    Quote Originally Posted by haavarla View Post
    Is that an F-15E?
    If so, i think its from MAKS 2011.
    USAF was there with F-15E, great stuff.

    The 'Vigilance skies' exercise did not see any F-15, only F-16.

    I think Flankers did visit US years ago(90s).
    If its an F-15C, its gotto to be a pretty old photo.
    That's obviously F-15C/D. And the Flanker is an Su-30, not Su-27UB.

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    Someone, I believe Mr. Wand wanted a recent pic of MiG-31 with full load:

    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by eagle View Post
    Here's two.
    If you know what they say, please elaborate
    One thing is sure, there isn't much difference and each jet has its advantages.
    Thanks a ton.
    These charts should be the Su-27S/SK version me thinks.. With its reduced weapons load and lower wing loading..

    Anyway, No there aren't much difference. But do keep in mind that the Su-27S are 20% physical larger and allmost 4 ton heavier than the F-15C. Hense, drag in Transonic speed region should be in F-15 favor.
    But not as much as one might think, The Flanker do have more lift, so in climb chart the Flanker mostly get away with it.
    Last edited by haavarla; 18th January 2013 at 14:50.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    Someone, I believe Mr. Wand wanted a recent pic of MiG-31 with full load:

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7265/7...3592f615_b.jpg
    thatz real good!

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    R-40's are always nice to see, rare these days. Is there more of this TR1?

    Some nice pictures: http://pressa-zvo.livejournal.com/139620.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by over G View Post
    The yak-130 for russian CAS?, you must be kidding...

    CAS requirements for Russia are completely different from US CAS requirements, the russian federetion has been facing the chechenian resistance, the ossetian war, these kind of wars were pretty dirty, they were not fighting some stonemen hiding in caves, neither they have the Pakistan army to do the dirty job, neither they have the time to carefully deploy an army, because the war you will fight is on the other side of the world, they need a heavy, sturdy and ready to fight CAS plane...an aircraft that can do the job with few sorties, a plane that will be ready when their forces get attacked by surprise...

    The only plane that could do the job is the Su-25, the Yak-130 is completely inadequate.

    So people really want to change that winged powerhorse , just because they believe a faceted pony will do the job as good as the 25?, they will get a very nasty awaking.
    Yesterdays thinking to stay polite. The war in the Caucasus was fought with the weaponary at hand and showed the related weaknesses including that of the Su-25s. The main thread to that are the manpads. The state of the art defence against that is to stay at same height to allow the own EW-suit to deal with that. Russia of today has no longer the echolon saturation tactic supported by some airborn fire-power and switched to some kind of western style support as China some years before.

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    Last edited by TR1; 9th April 2012 at 22:35.
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    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/16118/

    Results for Russian Helicopters over 2011:
    -Helicopter deliveries increased by 22.4% - 262 choppers total.
    -Firm contract portfolio DOUBLED to 859 helicopters as of December 31st, 2011.
    -Profitability grew by 7%

    In 2011, the company delivered 9 types of helicopters to 11 different nations.
    The main increase in the order backlog- domestic orders from defense ministry .

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/16098/

    On 4th of april, another AN-22 came out of KapRemont and resumed service.

    http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/16031/

    Il-76, before and after.
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