RuAF aviation, news and development thread

[haavarla]

http://russianplanes.net/ID71920

First serial Su-35C, with something interesting under its belly!

Umm, a Q if i may.

If we take a look at the F-16. It has big impact on aerodynamic and on drag how the missiles and DT are placed.
I mean, the AMMRAM goes on the outer wing station, sidewinder under the wing pylon. And even two DT on inner Wing pylon has about the same drag penalty as one DT on the center belly station.


And now my question. Seen on that pic the Su-35S got short range missile on outer wing tip station. This would also be positive for drag penalty, however those two large missile under the center hardpints would increase drag penalty?
Would it not be better to use the two inner wing station?
The Tunnel on Flanker do aid drastical on total lift area, so when something get stuffed there the loss of total lift goes down or get disrupted?
Right?
But then again we have RCS penalty..

Center station on Flanker could have penalty on drag but improvments on RCS and vice verca on wing stations?

[Berkut]

Can December come faster?

Then we can finally see 6 Su-35C and ~10 Su-34 roll out.

It has been a while since i read that 6 Su-35S news, but wasn't it about that 6 frames are going to be officially "in service" this year? That doesn't mean they will suddenly roll out 6 new Su-35S at the end of the year, to me it sounds like S-1, S-2, S-3, S-4 will be done with testing and two more frames will be made this year.

[medal64]

Any idea about the new ordered Su-30SMs may have the touchscreen cockpit displays as the Super-30? Its mentioned that the Su-30SM is a present of the India to the Russian airforce! If Irkut company did such a work for the Super-30 upgrade, they may apply it to the Su-30SM but im not sure about the manufacturer of the new displays

[Berkut]

Is it confirmed now that that picture was of super-30 upgrade medal64?

[medal64]

Is it confirmed now that that picture was of super-30 upgrade medal64?

Who will confirm it, Irkut representatives

[TR1]

It has been a while since i read that 6 Su-35S news, but wasn't it about that 6 frames are going to be officially "in service" this year? That doesn't mean they will suddenly roll out 6 new Su-35S at the end of the year, to me it sounds like S-1, S-2, S-3, S-4 will be done with testing and two more frames will be made this year.

Yes, I figured the same, but it will still be an excellent photo opportunity, and I am still in need of good high res Su-35C photos from several angles. That spine in particular.

[TR1]

Who will confirm it, Irkut representatives

Do we even know that pic of from Irkut?

[medal64]

Do we even know that pic of from Irkut?

I think its absolutely an Su-27 series aircraft but don't know about the orign of the displays...

[TR1]

I think its absolutely an Su-27 series aircraft but don't know about the orign of the displays...

Well, Su-27 series could mean Irkut, Knaapo, a repair shop....just saying, there are quite a few possibilities.

[medal64]

Well, Su-27 series could mean Irkut, Knaapo, a repair shop....just saying, there are quite a few possibilities.

Yes you are right but its the most advanced Russian aircraft cockpit i have ever seen, so i wonder if its an super-30 upgrate cockpit, shall we see them on the Su-30SM??

[TR1]

I don't really see it as any more advanced than SU-35C cockpit tbh.

Su-30SM was ordered because it was ready for production, so I doubt they want a radical change that will slow down the tempo. We will know this year for sure though.

[medal64]

I don't really see it as any more advanced than SU-35C cockpit tbh.

Su-30SM was ordered because it was ready for production, so I doubt they want a radical change that will slow down the tempo. We will know this year for sure though.

I see great graphics such western standarts and touch screens as all aicrafts will get it in the future, so in my opinion its the most advanced one as today

[Flanker_man]

What's a 'SU-35C' ?????

Can we please stick to the correct designation ??

Which in the western alphabet is 'Su-35S' - with 'S' for 'Series' (i.e. 'production')

If you are going to use the Cyrillic letter 'S' (which is 'C' - then you should write 'Cy-35C'.

Otherwise it gets very confusing and makes people thing there is a new variant.....

End of rant....

Ken

[martinez]

Otherwise it gets very confusing and makes people thing there is a new variant.....

End of rant....

Ken

Agree, was also wondering what they are talking about. Appealing to the youth here, please pay attention to the correct designation, bcs some of us are getting old, weak, bald, grey, and intellectually challenged.

[TR1]

http://russianplanes.net/ID72158

Arbalet testing on Mi-28, pic from a day ago.

[dionis]

http://russianplanes.net/ID72158

Arbalet testing on Mi-28, pic from a day ago.

Might be nice to see some ATGMs too

[Lonevolk]

Be-300


A Beriev project for a naval patrol aircraft based on the Be-200. It's proposed to come in 2 versions: ASW + Recon version with side looking radar

[TR1]

Apparently the first Mi-28UB conversion is happening right now.

http://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/15852/

Irkut considering a second Yak-130 line, due to increased domestic and export orders.

I wonder how Sokol fits into this.

[mack8]

Well, i was a just about to start talking about the news that China and Russia might develop together a light 5th gen fighter, based on FC-1 aparently , with a 9300kgf TVC engine.

I have seen that new article couple of days ago on mr. Andrey Fomin's site Take-off.ru . I went to check there now again , but that bit of news seems to be gone! April 1 prank ?

[TR1]

Well, i was a just about to start talking about the news that China and Russia might develop together a light 5th gen fighter, based on FC-1 aparently , with a 9300kgf TVC engine.

I have seen that new article couple of days ago on mr. Andrey Fomin's site Take-off.ru . I went to check there now again , but that bit of news seems to be gone! April 1 prank ?

I certainly hope so, FC-1, eww.

[WinterStars]

How reliable is Mr. Fomin's Information because I have been waiting for to23.pdf for a few months now...

[JSR]

Total no less than 300 airlifters with about 100 will be MTA.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...quisition-plan

60-70 ruslan for private airlines that can be use by military.
http://en.ria.ru/mlitary_news/20120402/172554583.html

so total access to new transport aircraft is about 400

[TR1]

http://russianplanes.net/ID72305

Su-27SM3 + Kh-29.

[Bellum]

Total no less than 300 airlifters with about 100 will be MTA.
http://www.ainonline.com/aviation-ne...quisition-plan

The commander also called for additional Yakovlev Yak-130 advanced jet trainers to be used for preparation of Su-34 and Su-35 fighter pilots. The airplane was also selected as a platform for development of a light strike aircraft.

This is a reference to the new stealthy close air support aircraft(to be in service by 2020), right? So it is going to be based on Yak-130, that already has a competent strike capability.

[Berkut]

I wonder how Sokol fits into this.

Last Sokol frame was finished a good while ago.

[TR1]

Last Sokol frame was finished a good while ago.

Yes, the first batch was from Sokol.

But what now, no more Yak-130s from there? Seems a waste to set up a line for such a small order.

[TR1]

Speaking of the yak-130:

[Berkut]

Yes, the first batch was from Sokol.

But what now, no more Yak-130s from there? Seems a waste to set up a line for such a small order.

Yeah, i think it the line is closed for good, with Irkut having monopoly.

[UAZ]

I think Sokol is busy upgrading MiG-31s to BM standard.
But they can certainly make more Yak-130s.

[soyuz1917]

Sokol actually cant. The entire production line was packed up and shipped to Irkut. Irkut is actually thinking of expanding the existing production line they inherited to double capacity.

http://rosprom.org/news/aviation/na_...borke_yak_130/