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    Algerian Air Force-pictures and discussion

    Well, previously you could find some pics in the Small Air Forces thread , but judging by the hundreds of pictures and information coming out lately , don't think Algerian Air Force can qualify as "small " anymore, hence this topic.

    Relatively not publicized, but quite a little "hardy" air force. They got a first hand operational force (at least in the region) , Su-30MKAs, and MiG-29s 9.13 (at least one was seen in Belarus , probably for upgrade) as the main fighter force, they have a sizeable force of Su-24 attackers, while the mighty MiG-25PD still serves on.

    Also they have an ongoing contract for 16 Yak-130 (and word is they might order 12-16 more).

    To my knowledge all the older aircraft ( MiG-21, 23 etc. are retired).

    Oh they also have air defence "goodies" like Pantsir-S1 and S-300PMU2 ( which have been repeatedly photographed from satellites-as of yet no photo of it was leaked)

    According to Algerian fora (forcesdz.com) this is their inventory (it is not deffinitive, nor 100% accurate , as it does not rely on official sources, only on the research of Algerian aviation fans).

    The numbers presumably include also aircraft under delivery or thought to be ordered ( personal observations in paranthesis) :

    COMBAT AIRCAFT:
    +12 MiG-25PD
    +30 MiG-29 (34 according to Flightglobal, at least 43 thought to have been delivered over the years , possibly with as high as over 70)
    +40 Su-24MK (thought to be upgraded to MK2 standard)
    44 Su-30MKA (including 16 under delivery from the latest contract)

    TANKERS:
    6 Il-78 ( 5 according to Flightglobal)

    SPECIAL MISSION:
    3 MiG-25RB
    4 Su-24MRK (no photo evidence yet)
    2 Su-24MPK (no photo evidence yet)
    6 Beech-1900 HISAR /MMSA
    2 Beech-200T
    +15 Seeker recce UAVs
    10 Mirach-100 target towing UAVs

    TRAINERS
    2 MiG-25U
    +40 L-39C/ZA
    30? Yak-130 (presumably , this figures reflects the 16 under delivery, plus the extra 12-16 thought to be ordered , or in the process of)
    +10 Beech-200
    6 Beech C90B/GTX
    +30 Zlin-142/Firnas-42
    +25 Safir-43

    VIP TRANSPORT
    1 A340-541
    4 Gulfstream IV
    1 Gulfstream V
    1 Fokker F27

    TRANSPORT/LIAISON
    6 Beech -1900D
    6 Beech-300/350
    16 C-130H/H-30
    6 C-295
    3 Il-76MD
    9 Il-76TD
    3 PC-6

    HELICOPTERS
    +2 AS-355
    +10 AS-555
    3 Bell-412EP
    +4 Bell-206L
    5 Ka-32S/T
    +20 Mi-2
    +10 Mi-8T
    +100 Mi-171 (many upgraded)
    +40 Mi-24 Mk-III SuperHind

    Representative images for each aircraft in service (some you might know , some you might not ):

    MiG-25PD
    http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/369...24610large.jpg
    MiG-29
    http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/5605/dsc09593b.jpg
    Su-24
    http://img690.imageshack.us/img690/8...4a3da11b9d.jpg
    Su-30MKA
    http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/200/su30mk10.jpg
    Il-78
    http://img240.imageshack.us/img240/3...rd01qa1ef5.jpg
    MiG-25RB
    http://i83.servimg.com/u/f83/11/43/45/77/mig25r10.jpg
    Beech-1900D HISAR
    http://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/13/41/14/96/dsc00212.jpg
    Beech-200T
    http://i42.servimg.com/u/f42/11/02/97/60/09929110.jpg
    L-39
    http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/9726/dsc09353dd.jpg
    Yak-130
    http://img4.hostingpics.net/pics/312758062934.jpg
    Beech-200
    http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/819...2010154255.jpg
    Beech C90B
    http://i81.servimg.com/u/f81/14/01/52/64/03205210.jpg
    A340-541
    http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/89...1317152335.jpg
    Gulfstream IV
    http://nsa14.casimages.com/img/2010/...1522567453.jpg
    Gulfstream V
    http://img832.imageshack.us/img832/4880/a2copy.jpg
    Fokker F27
    http://img34.imageshack.us/img34/9687/1588117.jpg
    Beech-1900D
    http://img706.imageshack.us/img706/8...menrast208.jpg
    Beech-300/350
    http://images.imagehotel.net/xf1zqxqqk2.jpg
    C-130
    http://www.lkpd.info/photos/2010/1741.jpg
    C-295
    http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4015/...b92e6fe7_o.jpg
    Il-76MD
    http://spotters.net.ua/files/images/...478_large.jpeg
    Il-76TD
    http://img187.imageshack.us/img187/2295/0lliqzwvr7.jpg
    AS-355
    http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-1iDynvpX8M...00/ER-19+2.jpg
    AS-555
    http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4285/dsc08087z.jpg
    Ka-32
    http://i93.servimg.com/u/f93/11/43/45/77/n5772210.jpg
    Mi-2
    http://i83.servimg.com/u/f83/11/43/45/77/mil2di10.jpg
    Mi-8T
    http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/4...2007006nk5.jpg
    Mi-171
    http://images.imagehotel.net/xdg0d7p6k2.jpg
    Mi-24 MkIII SuperHind
    http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/9...8df9c481eo.jpg


    Having had the express permission of the moderators from forcesdz.com, i'll start posting shortly some good pictures of Algerian Air Force aircraft, past and present. Stay tuned.
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    Nice work on a new topic for the forum.

    I didn't know they operated the King Air...do you happen to know their uses for the two models? VIP airlift? Liaison?

    Also, any recent (2011 or 2012) photos of the MiG-25 fleet? I remember the ones forming on the A340 in those photos posted either last year or the year before that seemed to confirm they are indeed operational.

    Any thoughts as to the readiness of the Foxbat fleet?
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    here you go Phantom, 2011




    one thing i wonder is why do they give their Su-30MKA's two different paint schemes. grey and blue-grey

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    4 Su-24MRK (no photo evidence yet)
    There are few known photos of Algerian Su-24MRKs - coded KG-24, KG-46 and KG-93

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    here you go Phantom, 2011

    one thing i wonder is why do they give their Su-30MKA's two different paint schemes. grey and blue-grey
    The blue-grey examples could be Su-30MKR - tailor-made version with Thales recce suite - replacement of MiG-25RBSh of 515th Esc
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    There are few known photos of Algerian Su-24MRKs - coded KG-24, KG-46 and KG-93
    Combat Aircraft Magazine 2011/08 has an article of the modern Algerian AF
    you can see the photo of KG-93

    another Su-24MRK is KG-65

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    Algeria military aviation code number

    Su-30MKA KF-xx
    MiG-29S FC-xx
    MiG-29UB FB-xx
    MiG-25PDS FU-xx
    MiG-25RBSh FG-xx
    MiG-25UB FL-xx
    Su-24MK KX-xx
    Su-24MR KG-xx
    MiG-21/U FD-xx/FN-xx
    MiG-23MF/ML/UB FP-xx/FM-xx
    L-39C/ZA NL-xx
    YAK-130 NY-xx
    C-295M 7T-WGx
    C-130H/H-30 7T-WHx
    IL-76TD/MD 7T-WIx
    Beechcraft 1900D 7T-WSx
    Mi-24V/V MK III SB-xx
    Mi-8T/PS/171 SM-xx/SN-xx/SH-xx
    Mi-2 ST-xx
    Bell412 EB-xx/BV-xx
    AS355B ER-xx/ES-xx
    Super Lynx Mk-130 LS-xx
    AW-101 Merlin MS-xx
    KA 32T AG-xx

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    Thanks for your input regarding the coding Liushahe, very informative.
    Indeed, i have forgotten about he Merlin and Super Lynxes.

    Meenwhile , just page i found with several more Algerian Air Force pictures old and new.

    http://www.flickriver.com/groups/alg...l/interesting/

    I didn't know they operated the King Air...do you happen to know their uses for the two models? VIP airlift? Liaison?
    Are you refering to the C90B/GTX ones ? Well they are categorized under "trainers" so i would guess multiengine trainers , but i'll ask around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MSphere View Post
    There are few known photos of Algerian Su-24MRKs - coded KG-24, KG-46 and KG-93
    Would you have a link to any of them by any chance MSphere, managed to find KG-93 in CA as Liushahe pointed. Thanks.

    Meenwhile a documentary from Algerian TV about Su-24s.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=EmGoCXepNgU
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ty0A9...ayer_embedded#!
    Last edited by mack8; 18th March 2012 at 11:49.

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    Few more Fencers, source forcesdz.com:
    KX-11

    KX-12

    KX-53 under maintenance
    Last edited by mack8; 18th March 2012 at 12:34.

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    Oh and a MRK, KG-65 , source forcesdz.com
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    I didn't know they operated the King Air...do you happen to know their uses for the two models? VIP airlift? Liaison?
    Aparently 3 C90B were purchased in the eighties for formation at Tafraoui air school , then 3 more GTx purchased last year ( 2011?) used aparently on both formation and transport.

    Serials

    7T-WCF Beech C90B King Air LJ-1359
    7T-WCG Beech C90B King Air LJ-1379
    7T-WCH Beech C90B King Air LJ-1380

    ALGERIAN AF Beech C90GTx LJ-2027 (ex N81427)
    ALGERIAN AF Beech C90GTx LJ-2023 (ex N8123Y)
    ALGERIAN AF Beech C90GTx LJ-2024 (ex N8124E)

    http://nsa21.casimages.com/img/2012/...3606653573.jpg

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    A few good shots of the tip of the spear of the Algerian Air Force , Su-30MKA.
    KF-22

    KF-24

    KF-16

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack8 View Post
    A few good shots of the tip of the spear of the Algerian Air Force , Su-30MKA.
    KF-22
    http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/1137/magic1c.jpg[/IMG]
    KF-24
    http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/4086/p1010024fo.jpg[/IMG]
    KF-16
    http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/5806/p1010013uo.jpg[/IMG]
    Wow! Great stuff there mack8


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    Interesting MiG-23BNs (long retired at the moment ) sporting Mk82 bombs , aparently purchased from S.Africa. Source forcesdz.com



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    3rd Air Defence Wing's MiG-29 9.13, showing the unit badge, and also A-G loadout. Pictures taken at the beggining of the 2000s aparently.





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    It would have been nice to see those new Fulcrum SMT in desert camo. Contract disputes had to ruin it oh well.

    By the way those Mig-23 still look like in good condition. If they could upgrade them with RD-33 engines and avionics upgrade, like a Bars-29 radar then that would make it a even better aircraft.
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    i like the cammo of Algerian air force fighters

    the AlAF sure is the most stongest air force in the region
    LAND OF EAGLES

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    Hello, the Mig-23BNs aren't operational yet, this pictures was taken in 2000, now the SU-24s are the exclusive bomber of the Algerian Air Force. It's also important to say that the Algerian is the last country in the world to use the interceptor variant of the mighty Foxbat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reddor View Post
    .

    By the way those Mig-23 still look like in good condition. If they could upgrade them with RD-33 engines
    LOL why? so it could fly under powered and carry less while being more smokey at the same time? horrible idea.

    the MiG-23's current engine has way more thrust.
    Al-31 MiG-23's however are more doable and has been done on the 27

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    LOL why? so it could fly under powered and carry less while being more smokey at the same time? horrible idea.

    the MiG-23's current engine has way more thrust.
    Al-31 MiG-23's however are more doable and has been done on the 27
    [img]//img211.imageshack.us/img211/4870/2731dk7.jpg[/img]
    Like Fulcrum29 said the MiG-23s( both attacker and interceptor) are long out of service, so are MiG-21s etc .

    One of the things i'm very interested is, what will be the next combat aircraft for Algeria ? More Su-30MKAs? Su-35? MiG-35? Maybe a western aircraft ?! Also wonder what's gonna happen with their MiG-29, are they going to be replaced fairly shortly ( end of airframe hours?) or given a proper upgrade a la SMT/UPG?

    Would assume that if everything goes well and current political trends continue, PAK-FA will be a given in the early twenties (even earlier , who knows)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack8 View Post
    Like Fulcrum29 said the MiG-23s( both attacker and interceptor) are long out of service, so are MiG-21s etc .

    One of the things i'm very interested is, what will be the next combat aircraft for Algeria ? More Su-30MKAs? Su-35? MiG-35? Maybe a western aircraft ?! Also wonder what's gonna happen with their MiG-29, are they going to be replaced fairly shortly ( end of airframe hours?) or given a proper upgrade a la SMT/UPG?

    Would assume that if everything goes well and current political trends continue, PAK-FA will be a given in the early twenties (even earlier , who knows)
    I think Algerians have expressed their stance towards MiG-29SMT clearly when they rejected the whole fleet and ordered more MKAs instead.

    The next on the list would be something of different origin as they are looking for the low end of the mix. I think something like FC-1 or Gripen would fit in.

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    What about their struggling Mig-29 fleet? Their lifetime ended in 2010-11 and all needed overhaul and life extension. Most of them once served in 787 iap, Finow (Eberswalde), Soviet 16th Air Army in East Germany.
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    Aparently they are /will be overhauled in Belarus. This algerian MiG-29 could have been photographed there some time ago (note Su-17 in the background), but i'm not 100% sure.



    Presumably, from take-off magazine , don't know what year.

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    Toooo close :diablo:





    Thanks to Dr Watson from www.forcesdz.com

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    Slightly older, but some very nice MKA photos.




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