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    TR1's Great Russian Aviation Thread 7,the return of Timofey Mozgov

    since thread 6 is full and Haarvy closed his thread.

    http://indrus.in/articles/2012/02/02...ter_14703.html
    Russian new fighter
    February 2, 2012
    Anastasia Kislyakova, The Voice of Russia


    Military Space Review talks about Serial Three Su-35S Flanker-E multipurpose jet fighter, which has been successfully tested for the first time at the end of January. India is a potential export customer of the aircraft.


    As a result of the cutbacks, infrastructure became degraded as well, and in 1998, 40% of military airfields needed repair. The situation only began to improve after Putin took power and military budgets were greatly increased.



    The VVS participated in the First Chechen War (1994–1996) and the Second Chechen War (1999–2002). These campaigns also presented significant difficulties for the VVS including the terrain, lack of significant fixed targets and insurgents armed with American Stinger and Strela-2M surface-to-air missiles.



    During the 1990s the Sukhoi design bureau designed a replacement bomber aircraft, the T-60S. This aircraft did not reach the production stage. A further abortive design project was the MiG 1.42.



    Deputy Commander of the Russian Air Force Igor Sadofiyev said on December 1 that in the next ten years, Russia will acquire more than 1,500 new aircraft and upgrade more than 400 others. The media has mentioned these figures more than once when quoting high-ranking military officers, but now the Air Force is ready to disclose the full range of its purchases.



    The modernization of obsolescent planes at a relatively modest cost makes it possibleto sharply increase the combat potential of the previous generation of aircraft. Such improvements are common practice in many national militaries, and, for its part, Russia primarily plans to upgrade its long-range aviation and cargo fleet.



    The Air Force will extend the service life of the Tu-160 (Blackjack) and Tu-95 (Backgin) strategic bombers and the Tu-22M3 long-range bombers and upgrade its IL-78 (Midas) refueling tankers.



    Additional improvements will be made to the A-50 "flying radar" and cargo aircraft, such as the An-124 Ruslan (Condor) and Il-76 (Candid) airlifters.



    Front-line aviation will also undergo modernization, but the accent will be shifted. All things considered, the Air Force will likely discontinue the modernization of the Su-27 (Flanker) fighter we have mentioned before into its SM version after it receives 12 new aircraft of this type in 2011.



    On the other hand, the Air Force plans to step up the modernization of the Su-25 (Frogfoot) assault plane, the Su-24 (Fencer) bomber, and the MIG-31 (Foxhound) interceptor. On par with transports and far-range bombers, they will form the backbone of Russia's upgraded air fleet.



    The planned purchase of 1,500 new aircraft and helicopters in the next ten years has sent some shockwaves, because in the past, annual purchases were limited to 30-40 aircraft in total. Many wonder if the plan is realistic.



    Ruslav Pukhov, director of the Centre for Analysis of Strategies and Technology (CAST) and one of the leading domestic military experts, explains: “Most likely, this number - 1,500 aircraft - includes not only planes and helicopters, but also drones. Many countries count their aircraft in this way, for instance, when they present information to the UN Register of Conventional Arms”.



    In reality, the figure of "more than 1,500 aircraft" is most likely to include 350-400 new combat aircraft, about 100 military transports of different types, and 120-140 Yak-130 Mitten trainer aircraft. The remaining 800-900 aircraft will be helicopters and drones.



    Some figures on particular types of aircraft have been specified. The Defense Ministry has already signed contracts for the purchase of 32 Su-34 (Fullback) front-line bombers through 2013, 48 Su-35 fighters through 2015, 12 Su-27 SM (Flanker) fighters through 2011, four Su-30M2 (Flanker C) aircraft through 2011, and 12 Su-25 UBM trainer aircraft.



    Contracts for the purchase of another 100-110 aircraft are likely to be awarded to the Sukhoi design bureau for the T-50 fifth generation fighter and other Sukhoi aircraft.



    The Defense Ministry also has plans to buy a long list of helicopters - primarily the Mi-28H (Havoc) and Ka-52 Hokum B attack choppers.



    By 2020, their numbers are likely to swell to 200-250 and 50-60, respectively, while different Mi-8 (Hip) versions will remain the backbone of the transport and combat fleet. Their serial production was launched in the 1960s and will continue for at least two more decades.



    The biggest enigma is the drones that the Air Force is planning to buy. In fact, today the military are expected to purchase drones that have not yet been developed or are, at most, in the last stage of design. It has been previously reported that the testing of domestic drones was scheduled to start in 2011.



    By 2020, Russia will have about 800 efficient combat aircraft and a total fleet numbering between 1,500 and 1,700 planes and helicopters. Including Navy aircraft, Russian military aviation will possess around 1,800-1,900 aircraft, not counting drones.

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    MiG-29 in PROFESSIONAL grey

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    nice grey paint, looks very professional..
    which reminds me of some of the sentiment in this thread
    grey combat jets
    http://russianplanes.net/images/to65000/064536.jpg
    They are both the same aircraft!

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    Quote Originally Posted by J-20 Hotdog View Post
    MiG-29 in PROFESSIONAL grey
    I love that colour. Makes it look so sleek and sexy!:diablo:

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    Hmmm ... not really !

    I like the new grey on the helicopters and I think that, together with ablack anti-glare part and a slightly different grey for the radome or dielectics would be nice ... but neither that glossy grey for the "civil" types nor that light grey for the MiG-29 and even less that strange one for the Su-34.

    Besides that, in the latest AFM is a photo of the latest UASF F-15 scheme ... that looks nice !

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    http://russianplanes.net/ID65653

    Nice photo of Tu-4!

    I agree Deino, that MiG-29 scheme just looks plain, but it is a trainer.
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65323
    This MiG-29K looks much better with the black contrast.

    http://russianplanes.net/ID57609
    http://russianplanes.net/ID46758
    Here is a single seat MIG-29 in that Lipetsk grey, looks better than the UB.

    http://russianplanes.net/ID53071
    Another grey variant, and a different scheme behind it.
    Russian MIG-29s still have a huge variety of paint schemes.

    While we are at it, I think this looks far more "professional":
    http://russianplanes.net/ID45865
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    The Russians try to look different than the Soviets. Otherwise they could go for all silver, with a red nose, red tail, and red stars ...

    Not too stoked about that tripple-color star. The original Emperial Air Service roundel was red and blue rings with a large white circle in the middle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TR1 View Post
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65653
    I agree Deino, that MiG-29 scheme just looks plain, but it is a trainer.
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65323
    This MiG-29K looks much better with the black contrast.

    http://russianplanes.net/ID57609
    http://russianplanes.net/ID46758
    Here is a single seat MIG-29 in that Lipetsk grey, looks better than the UB.

    http://russianplanes.net/ID53071
    Another grey variant, and a different scheme behind it.
    Russian MIG-29s still have a huge variety of paint schemes.

    While we are at it, I think this looks far more "professional":
    http://russianplanes.net/ID45865
    when talking plain, boring, not boring or profesional grey-grey paint schemes, what do you think of this Mig-29 camo ?


    http://www.planephotos.net/photo/351...MiG-29AS_0921/
    http://i.planepictures.net/96/98/1282027440.jpg
    http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviatio.../1/1763115.jpg
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    Yes, the Slovak MiG-29 digital camo is just superb!

    Quote Originally Posted by Deino View Post
    Besides that, in the latest AFM is a photo of the latest UASF F-15 scheme ... that looks nice !
    http://theaviationist.com/2012/02/05/red-air/

    This one? Aggressor-only, sadly.

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    To represent new Russian splinter scheme?

    I thought the cold war was over .
    http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/9098/rsz11rsz3807.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trident View Post
    This one? Aggressor-only, sadly.
    Sorry, was a typo - I meant F-16 ! No, a new scheme similar to the F-35's in an overall silversh dark grey !
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    He was my North, my South, my East and West,
    My working week and my Sunday rest,
    My noon, my midnight, my talk, my song;
    I thought that love would last forever; I was wrong.

    The stars are not wanted now; put out every one:
    Pack up the moon and dismantle the sun;
    Pour away the ocean and sweep up the woods:
    For nothing now can ever come to any good.
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    Backgin?
    Go Huskers!

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    They should paint the nose in a different colour.
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    Second MiG-29M2 for Syria

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    Oh geez more MiG-29 pron! Many thanks Kotey.
    First question : where on earth is that fairing thingie on the left nacelle??!
    Second question : i wonder what 741 and 747 stands for ...we know that the K/KUB is 941/947( presumably meaning izdeliye 9.41/9.47) while the MiG-35 demonstrators are 961/ 967( izd. 9.61/9.67), so the Syrian MiG-29 izdeliye code is 7.41/7.47?

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    Different angle of 741
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65691

    And 747
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65723
    ( they took that fairing off!)

    Finally, MiG-29K 941 in "light" A-A configuration
    http://russianplanes.net/ID65725
    Last edited by mack8; 6th February 2012 at 19:38.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mack8 View Post
    Oh geez more MiG-29 pron! Many thanks Kotey.
    First question : where on earth is that fairing thingie on the left nacelle??!
    maybe something new that we did not see before and hence they don't want to give much publicity to that stuff?? Or simply because they are not required to be installed now?

    Second question : i wonder what 741 and 747 stands for ...we know that the K/KUB is 941/947( presumably meaning izdeliye 9.41/9.47) while the MiG-35 demonstrators are 961/ 967( izd. 9.61/9.67), so the Syrian MiG-29 izdeliye code is 7.41/7.47?
    741 & 747 maybe because these aircraft lack some basic hardware compared to the 941/947/961/967...like the lack of refuelling probe which are a standard feature of all the new gen MiG-29???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kotey View Post
    Second MiG-29M2 for Syria


    IS it just me, or has the composite %age increased over the past 4-5 years. I recall the early MiG-29K models (circa 2008), and they did not seem to have as much grey area on the airframe. I believe the grey is composite, right? I wonder how much weight they have managed to shed off the MiG-29M. It was not too heavy to begin with - if they can manage to get it around 11 tons, it'd be awesome with the RD 33MK engines.

    Damn the syrians are getting a good bird - wish the IAF had gone for the 35! But hey, Rafale is beautiful, no?

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    Yes grey is composite. After a rapid comparison..it doesnt seem to me the % has increased though..
    http://navaltoday.com/wp-content/upl...ndian-Navy.jpg
    http://en.rian.ru/images/5953/81/59538191.jpg

    ..btw are the USAF aggressors playing PAKFA now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by uss novice View Post
    IS it just me, or has the composite %age increased over the past 4-5 years. I Rafale is beautiful, no?
    Here is 2 more pictures in the mig29 fur syria.

    http://russianplanes.net/images/to66000/065927.jpg
    http://russianplanes.net/images/to66000/065926.jpg

    I thinks they are maybe more composits (but not more than J-10!!):diablo:

    rafael is not as beatifull as J-20!!:diablo:

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayrubik View Post
    They should paint the nose in a different colour.
    They usually have that nose painted different for the radar section. This MiG-29 is a trainer version and does not have a radar.

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