Russian Navy Thread

**owais.usmani** · 30th December 2011, 09:56

Another video, shows the front damaged section of the sub: http://www.lifenews.ru/news/78342

**TR1** · 30th December 2011, 19:30

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/12/30/eburg/

Repairs to Yekaterinburg will take at least a year. New hydroacoustic complex will likely have to be built, hopefully will be a new model unit.

**snake65** · 30th December 2011, 23:51

Originally Posted by Wanshan

What's PS-ed? (Pic 2 seems of the same series, pic 1 and 4 a bit earlier, without A/C, but taken around the same time. Pic 3 just for showing it is a common angle for a photo shot)

Aircraft are PSed.

**gf0012-aust** · 31st December 2011, 00:11

Originally Posted by TR1

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2011/12/30/eburg/

Repairs to Yekaterinburg will take at least a year. New hydroacoustic complex will likely have to be built, hopefully will be a new model unit.

was Yekaterinburg housing a 360deg, arched or partial array?

**snake65** · 31st December 2011, 13:33

Originally Posted by gf0012-aust

was Yekaterinburg housing a 360deg, arched or partial array?

Skat-BDRM, cylindric array, digital signal processing.

**gf0012-aust** · 31st December 2011, 22:01

Originally Posted by snake65

Skat-BDRM, cylindric array, digital signal processing.

thanks.

**Wanshan** · 2nd January 2012, 10:04

Originally Posted by snake65

Aircraft are PSed.

RU sure? There are 2 pics now showing the Kuz with AC, each from a different angle but the same number and location on deck. This would suggest a series of PS-jobs, if you are correct. Enlarge the small pic to similar size as the earlier hi-res pic TR1 posted a link for and compare.

**snake65** · 2nd January 2012, 10:38

Originally Posted by Wanshan

RU sure? There are 2 pics now showing the Kuz with AC, each from a different angle but the same number and location on deck. This would suggest a series of PS-jobs, if you are correct. Enlarge the small pic to similar size as the earlier hi-res pic TR1 posted a link for and compare.

No, I'm not sure. But I don't like the fuzzy look of the aircraft lined up along the island, compared to otherwise quite sharp Hi-res picture.

**TEEJ** · 2nd January 2012, 14:51

Update on the Russian Task Force. The Morse Meterological and Oceanographic messages continue.

1st January on 8345 KHz @ 18 GMT

Callsign RKO81

36.2N 14.7E

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?pq=36....-8&sa=N&tab=wl

2nd January on 8345 KHz @ 00 GMT

Callsign RKO81

36.0N 16.1E

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

2nd January on 8345 KHz @ 00 GMT

Callsign RAL65

39.8N 11.4W

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?pq=39....-8&sa=N&tab=wl

2nd January on 12464 KHz @ 12 GMT

Callsign RAL65

39.7N 11.1W

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

Frigate Ladny and Oiler Sergei Osipov left Malta this morning.

The 6th January should see exercise activity off Greece.

Russian Navy to carry out exercise in Mediterranean

A division of Russian Navy ships, headed by The Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft-carrier of the Northern Fleet, has come to an agreement with the Greek military about exercises in the Mediterranean Sea.

The exercises are to begin on the 6th of January, a spokesman for the Greek Central Headquarters reports.

According to the Greek military, the Russian division has not arrived at the site yet. The Russian ships set out on a trip on the 6th of December and carried out several exercises of on-board aircraft. Apart from The Admiral Kuznetsov, other ships of the

Northern, Baltic and Black Sea Fleets are taking part in the trip.

From

http://english.ruvr.ru/2012/01/02/63305319.html

Russian Navy Delegation Visited Greece

http://rusnavy.com/news/navy/index.php?ELEMENT_ID=13910

**Wanshan** · 3rd January 2012, 08:20

Originally Posted by snake65

No, I'm not sure. But I don't like the fuzzy look of the aircraft lined up along the island, compared to otherwise quite sharp Hi-res picture.

Yep that does look odd. But still, 2 different angle pics showing these. Plus others with comparably painted (if empty) deck.

**TR1** · 3rd January 2012, 20:17

On a random note, I was checking 971 production speeds, back in the day some of the boats in the class were commissioned around 1 year after being laid down....dear lord, talk about churning them out like sausages.

http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/339/MuQI4.jpg

Not sure if this pic of Severodvinsk has been posted. Can see missile tubes clearly.

**dionis** · 4th January 2012, 02:41

They are really streamlining those teardrop hulls more and more.

That pic shows it best..

**owais.usmani** · 4th January 2012, 04:44

Originally Posted by TR1

On a random note, I was checking 971 production speeds, back in the day some of the boats in the class were commissioned around 1 year after being laid down....dear lord, talk about churning them out like sausages.

http://militaryrussia.ru/i/284/339/MuQI4.jpg

Not sure if this pic of Severodvinsk has been posted. Can see missile tubes clearly.

Amur shipyard used to launch a Kilo sub around 4 months after its being laid.

**TEEJ** · 4th January 2012, 14:10

Update for 4th January

12464 RIW DE RAL65 QSA ? QTC K @ 1207
RAL65 341 16 4 1601 341 BT FOR RJH45 RJH74 BT
04121 99470 70070 41498 82811 10140 40410 51010 70322 883// 22272 00110 20707 04013 BT AR RAL65 K

RAL65 (RFS Admiral Chabenenko or support vessel?)

The Morse transmissions are in easily decodable international format. See following.

http://www.vos.noaa.gov/ObsHB-508/Ob..._compliant.pdf

47.0N 07.0W

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

4th January 06 GMT

RKO81 (RFS Yaroslav Mudry or RFS Lena)

34.6N 25.8E

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

4th January 00 GMT

RKO81

34.6N 24.7E

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?pq=34....-8&sa=N&tab=wl

4th January 00 GMT

RAL46 (RFS Sergei Osipov)

34.6N 26.2E

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

One Amateur Radio enthusiast has picked up a very nice find. Only a partial call with a possible R in it.

4th January 00 GMT

???98

34.9N 35.8E

Located off Tartus, Syria.

http://maps.google.co.uk/maps?hl=en&...-8&sa=N&tab=wl

NOTAM for the exercise in the Mediterranean.

RUSSIAN NAVY AND AIRFORCE WILL MAKE A WITHOUT FIRING EXERCISE
WITHIN ATHINAI FIR AS DESCRIBED BELOW:
1.-EXERCISE AREA (WITHOUT FIRING) : 361240N0193802E 362406N0195735E
354522N0211928E 352406N0212153E.
VERTICAL LIMITS: SCF-FL270.

2.- PROCEDURE FOR EXERCISE AIRCRAFT:
2.1.- EXERCISE ACFT WILL FLY VFR-VMC IN ACCORDANCE WITH ICAO
RULES AND PROCEDURES AS AMPLIFIED IN AIP-GREECE.

2.2.- EXERCISE ACFT WILL SUBMIT FLIGHT PLANS AND WILL ESTABLISH
CONTINUOUS RADIO COMMUNICATION WITH ATHINAI CONTROL FREQ 134,325 OR
124,625 AND EMERGENCY FREQ 121.5 OR 243.0 AND WITH ATHINAI FIC FREQ
119,750.

2.3.- PRIOR COORDINATION WITH APPROPRIATE ATC UNITS IS REQUIRED IN
CASE EXERCISE ACFT EXPECT TO ENTER CONTROLLED AIRSPACE. SFC - FL270, JAN 02
05 0800-1600, (ALTERNATIVE JAN 03 06 0800-1600), 02 JAN 08:00 2012 UNTIL 06 JAN
16:00 2012. CREATED: 30 DEC 11:40 2011

**TR1** · 5th January 2012, 10:01

http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...763&download=1

The hulls of the Novik, and the Tuman, waiting to be eventually cut apart.

**TR1** · 5th January 2012, 22:16

http://arms-tass.su/?page=article&aid=102351&cid=25

Baltic Fleet to get Boiky in 2012. That's three 20380s, Steregyschy, Soobrazitelny and Boiky.

http://russiannavy.ru/viewtopic.php?...d9eec71d3#p423

Some superb recent photos of the Big Ole' "Loafs".

Some rumors about 955s, could be BS, could be not BS:
Alexander Nevsky got a hole in its light outer hull, apparently another ship was thrown into it during a storm. Small hole, but still.

Rumors that parts of retired 971 Ak Bars will be used for a 955. Sounds unlikely, IMO, however other rumors suggest 949 sections could be used for the 955Ms. Not sure where these would be acquired, aside from Belgorod.

**owais.usmani** · 6th January 2012, 07:06

^^There are also 2 unfinished 949 hulls lying outside sevmash for quite some time.

EDIT: and the usage of bars stuff in borei is also probably true. DIMMI also mentions in his blog that they are used in the third borei Vladimir Monamakh.

Read here: http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-338.html

http://military.tomsk.ru/blog/topic-273.html

**TR1** · 8th January 2012, 01:17

http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...546&download=1

Good pic of Varyag (in Canada) that shows the laser attachment to the CIWS radar, and the optical ball on the AK-630 manual fire mount.

**TR1** · 8th January 2012, 17:09

http://forums.eagle.ru/showpost.php?...&postcount=212

Construction of naval structures in Novorosiisk.

**TR1** · 8th January 2012, 19:55

Originally Posted by owais.usmani

^^There are also 2 unfinished 949 hulls lying outside sevmash for quite some time.

EDIT: and the usage of bars stuff in borei is also probably true. DIMMI also mentions in his blog that they are used in the third borei Vladimir Monamakh.

Read here: http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-338.html

http://military.tomsk.ru/blog/topic-273.html

Well use of 971 hulls made sense, since a lot of then were laid down right before-right after collapse of USSR and were completed enough to be usefull and cost saving. But Ak-Bars is retired submarine, sounds dubious to me that it would be cut apart and hull used for a 955..what was the reason for scrapping it anyways? Why not use the Irbis, which is in an advanced state of completion for the program?

Regarding 949 hulls, given how different they are from 971, that would require massive redesign no? The "Batons" are huge, the profile would be much wider, not sure it would be worth the trouble. Could probably accommodate more tubes though. What of the Belgorod though? I would think it would be a prime candidate, though if I recall correctly they are thinking of finishing it for special purposes.

http://img805.imageshack.us/img805/8...lsvolgogra.jpg

Here is a pic of the unfinished hulls @ Sevmash I guess.

http://img824.imageshack.us/img824/4...ksk135volg.jpg

EDIT:
Nice photo of the conserved 941s:
http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/6...7tk20packa.jpg

**TR1** · 9th January 2012, 18:06

http://www.lenta.ru/news/2012/01/09/frigate/

Navy will get Admiral Grigorovich in 2014.
The second of the class, the Admiral Essen, was laid down in December 2011.

**TR1** · 9th January 2012, 23:42

**owais.usmani** · 10th January 2012, 12:39

http://lenta.ru/news/2012/01/10/billion/

Damage exceeds one billion rubles. Repairs will be carried out by Sevmash.

**TR1** · 10th January 2012, 18:17

Originally Posted by owais.usmani

http://lenta.ru/news/2012/01/10/billion/

Damage exceeds one billion rubles. Repairs will be carried out by Sevmash.

That's not bad if the figure doesn't rise, 30 million is pocket change to get the sub back.

**Witcha** · 11th January 2012, 05:41

Originally Posted by owais.usmani

http://lenta.ru/news/2012/01/10/billion/

Damage exceeds one billion rubles. Repairs will be carried out by Sevmash.

Not so bad. They were actually very lucky that only the sonar dome was damaged and not the torpedo chamber above. Else they may have had to pay several billions more for replacing the entire bow section. Or even the entire sub.

**owais.usmani** · 11th January 2012, 11:18

http://ria.ru/incidents/20120111/536879509.html

Rogozin denies that damage is of 1 billion rubles.

**Dark** · 11th January 2012, 19:18

What was the Reason for the earlier problems with Bulava missile?

**snake65** · 11th January 2012, 23:50

Originally Posted by Dark

What was the Reason for the earlier problems with Bulava missile?

Lousy manufacturing quality control.

**owais.usmani** · 12th January 2012, 06:02

Originally Posted by Dark

What was the Reason for the earlier problems with Bulava missile?

It is the first ever SLBM designed by MITT. What did you expect?

**TR1** · 14th January 2012, 19:18

Launch/Trial pics of Volgodonsk. Trials went well.

http://img841.imageshack.us/img841/1...tachmentft.jpg
http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/9374/attachmentk.jpg
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...860&download=1
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...862&download=1
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...867&download=1
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...868&download=1
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...869&download=1
http://balancer.ru/forum/punbb/attac...870&download=1

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