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    Air Seekers?

    'Flight Global' has this morning the news that the RAF's RC-135W Rivet Joint aeroplanes are going to be called 'Air Seekers'. Seems to be a rum name to me, can anyone suggest an improvement?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Orion View Post
    'Flight Global' has this morning the news that the RAF's RC-135W Rivet Joint aeroplanes are going to be called 'Air Seekers'. Seems to be a rum name to me, can anyone suggest an improvement?

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    Sort of questions their airworthyness doesn't it ?

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    'Seeker' on its own sounds better and fits in with Sentinal, Shadow, Sentry names quite well.
    Anything beats 'Rivet Joint' though, where does that name originate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    'Seeker' on its own sounds better and fits in with Sentinal, Shadow, Sentry names quite well.
    Anything beats 'Rivet Joint' though, where does that name originate?
    I always thought that Air Seeker was the project name?

    For Rivet Joint see following.

    The "Code Names Handbook", published by Defense Marketing Services (D.M.S.) in 1983 can be downloaded from the zip file on the designation-systems webpage. See below.

    'RIVET - A permanent first word nickname assigned to HQ USAF. The term provides for rapid response on a variety of minor aircraft modifications peculiar to the Air Forces special air mission aircraft.'

    http://www.designation-systems.net/usmilav/names/r.html

    http://www.designation-systems.net/u...ml#_FirstWords

    From

    http://www.designation-systems.net/

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    No thoughts on a name. Hopefully there are no major issues that crop up and cost even more, probably will be though. On a side note, I can't believe we awarding contracts to the US whilst they continue their assault on our largest defence contractor (BAE), and one of our largest companies (BP).

    Also, will it still have the QQ Tigershark?

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    It will be interesting to know which airframes have been selected from AMARG for conversion. I will be interested in researching their former life with the USAF.

    Which of you is the RAF getting?

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    Thanks TeeJ, that code list is something else.

    If does get called 'Seeker' then, can I claim it as my idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    Thanks TeeJ, that code list is something else.

    If does get called 'Seeker' then, can I claim it as my idea!
    Copywrite it quick and the MoD will have to pay you for the privilege of using the name, you could make millions.
    OK, maybe only a couple of quid given MoD's dire financial situation but money's money!
    If you're not living on the edge then you're taking up too much space!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fedaykin View Post
    It will be interesting to know which airframes have been selected from AMARG for conversion. I will be interested in researching their former life with the USAF.

    Which of you is the RAF getting?

    None of them.

    All 3 are recently active frames. From www.ukserials.com they are

    RJ18/18773 ZZ664 Rivet Joint Ex USAF KC-135R 64-14833
    RJ19/18778 ZZ665 Rivet Joint Ex USAF KC-135R 64-14838
    RJ20/18770 ZZ666 Rivet Joint Ex USAF KC-135R 64-14830
    HQ2 out

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    Excellent! Thanks HaveQuick2.

    I leave it to everyone else to guess what ZZ666 will get nicknamed as!
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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    Thanks TeeJ, that code list is something else.

    If does get called 'Seeker' then, can I claim it as my idea!
    No problem.

    Will they get the all grey treatment?

    http://i478.photobucket.com/albums/r...aft/RC-135.jpg

    TJ
    Last edited by TEEJ; 23rd December 2010 at 01:45.

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    What's with the photoshop job (all grey on top & grey/white on bottom)?
    "The early bird gets the worm but the second mouse gets the cheese."

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    Evil twin from an alternate universe?

    I wonder if they will get CFM-56 engines during the rebuild?
    Last edited by djcross; 21st December 2010 at 23:44.

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    They already do albeit the GE made military F108 version:

    http://www.geae.com/engines/military/f108/index.html

    The better question is will the UK have new engines fitted as part of the overhaul.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SpudmanWP View Post
    What's with the photoshop job (all grey on top & grey/white on bottom)?
    To decieve the countries we're going to invade, it's a conspiracy theory. You see, we, the UK, your "Closest Ally", (wink-wink) are going to invade China, Iran and Russia etc, steal all their oil and resources and live happily ever after...And be extremely rich, oh it'd be ever so nice...Anyway, it's to let the other countries we've evaded think: 'Damn the US! We hate you even more now!' And you'll come to the UK asking for help because they're calling you nasty names and we'll just say: Ohhh thats terrible isn't it, awww how dare they...Blah, blah, blah, wibble, wibble, wibble, Oh I knoooow it's not nice calling you that! Oh really....Yeah anyway, shut up Yank we've got money to spend on something we don't really need, nor Want...What was that? You want some money?.....Eh no! It's ours. now toodle-pip! HA! Damn you to the bowls of rotten hell!

    But shhhh it's a secret! (wink-wink)

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    Nicely done Teej
    That's exactly how I would expect it to look in RAF service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pagen01 View Post
    Nicely done Teej
    That's exactly how I would expect it to look in RAF service.
    Apologies. I meant to just post a link. I found it on the web.

    TJ

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    Will these KC/RC converts be fitted with E3-D style refueling probes?

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    I doubt it as it would involve extra qualifications for the airframe and tankers in service. RAF will rely on allied tanker assets if really needed.

    On a technical standpoint I don't see any issue with fitting a similar probe as fitted to British and French E3.
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