News at MeierMotors GmbH / Bremgarten South Germany

[Good Vibs]

Also my opinion, One Thread Only. Easier to follow.
Good Work!

[XH668]

Watch out duxford ay.
Keep up the great work.

[Bager1968]

In many ways I would prefer a separate thread on each project, as it would be easier to follow that project, and the search function would work better.

However, when the project is done, the thread would inevitably retreat into the depths of pages past, and be harder to find with a casual search (and more subject to deletion if Key gets tired of paying for ever more storage capacity).

Therefore, it seems better to keep one thread.

[ZRX61]

PT462 has bag tanks in the gun bays and PR type leading edge fuel tanks. The gun bays are rubber bag type which are foam filled. I understood the bay tanks were bag style as due to wing flex a metal tank would eventualy crack (down the wealds) as I belived happened to the Bayliss T9 last year. This one has now got rubber bag tanks.
If thats so I do wonder about the PR tanks, these appear to be a vast metal void in the whole of the wing leading edge! I believe there are simple baffels internally but they are certainly not foam filled. Hence the aircraft is not cleared for any aerobatics with fuel in the PR tanks, indeed they are refered to as ferry flight or transit tanks.
All up this Spitfire will hold some 210 Imp gallons - Been in it when taking off with some 150 gallons on grass - it was HEAVY!

Somewhere I have photos of the inside of the wings on PA908, when I find them, I'll scan & post them.. but don't hold your breath, haven't seen then in years.

[TonyT]

If thats so I do wonder about the PR tanks, these appear to be a vast metal void in the whole of the wing leading edge! I believe there are simple baffels internally but they are certainly not foam filled. Hence the aircraft is not cleared for any aerobatics with fuel in the PR tanks, indeed they are refered to as ferry flight or transit tanks.

Most of the PR19s have had or are having the facility removed, they have never carried fuel for decades and the PRC sealant or rubber seals behind the fasteners had dried out and perished because of that, resulting in the fasteners becoming loose, so most are omitting the tank, although externally it will appear the same.......

19's metal fuselage tank for reference

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...Kx1x/Tank1.jpg

wing tank bay MK19

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...x1x/Spit4a.jpg

pics of the leading edge tank opened up

http://i536.photobucket.com/albums/f...gedgetanks.jpg



Any news on whats happening with the Big Beautiful Doll yet?

[Camlobe]

Having just watched the youtube footage on another thread of the T9, I continue to be seriously impressed by what the team at Meirs Motors GMBH are accomplishing.

The P51's were exceptional, the Spitfires great, but the FW 190 was so completely and mindblowingly awesome.

love your work guys. So, is the 109 next?

camlobe

[Matthias Dorst]

Something smooth and something for the soul ...... and you can buy it !

The magnificant DeHavilland TigerMoth ... this bipe is in a superb condition. No, its not a fighter, but I love it really

The Moth-Team Felix and Patrick









and outside, a beauty isn´t she ?

[Matthias Dorst]

... some detailshots of that old beauty















So, thats enough old stuff
Again, its for sale. So if you are interested, just send me a PM I will make the contact for you

[harvardfreund]

Hi Matthias,

what is the machine in the backround of the Tiger-Moth >>> could it be Yak-3U F-AZIM??

Greetings
Stefan

[Matthias Dorst]

Hi Matthias,

what is the machine in the backround of the Tiger-Moth >>> could it be Yak-3U F-AZIM??

Greetings
Stefan

right you are. Marc made a short visit at MeierMotors doing a testflight with the Fw190, and this seemed to be his taxiplane

[Loose-Head]

I know everyones been going on about a certain Spitfire at Duxford lately (and quite rightly so - it's superb), but that Moth is absolutely gorgeous !

[danjama]

Great update, thanks!

[Propstrike]

Sorry to strike a grumpy note, but that the paint job on that Tiger is, what's the word now... horrible.

I know G-ANMV of old, when it was based at Booker with Tigerfly, and it used to look very authentic, in correct colours. This new paint scheme seems very odd, and the colours in the roundel are more like those seen in WW1.

It was a sad day when she crunched, whilst in the hands of Mark Walden ( not his fault ) The engine stopped in a stall turn just north of Henley on Thames, and the subsequent arrival in a field was rather on the firm side.

On reflection, the colours look quite different in the various photos ( in hangar, outside) , so perhaps the digital colour balance is making it look worse than it is.

[Matthias Dorst]

As you might know, this running project belongs to Jerry Yagens Fighter Factory Virginia. The task is to restore the airframe and convert it with a Daimler Benz DB605 to a "Gustav". Of course German registration and all those things.... lot of work, but a stunning project

I first "met" the fuselage in 2007 at the old shop in Freiburg, but now the project was started by Jerry Yagen



not so funny ..... clean the wings and wash all the colors off. Hard work, sometimes with a toothpick









good to see the Spanish wingstructure with two spars





gunport ... this was/is the gunmount for the Hispano 20mm cannon, one reason for the two-spar-wingstructure



looks like a ship, not like a fighter

[Matthias Dorst]

... the left wing in its "original" shape, will say in color



one of the typical spanish features. The 20mm Hispano mount. The aileron pushrod "goes around" the cannon. Tricky construction



close up gun bay



close up aileron pushrod



close up wingspar



between the spars, the ammunition bay, on the left side the feeder for the cannon



close up to the ammunition feeder at the cannon-side of the wing





the complete wing



wing fuselage side with all those attachments



wingtip

[DazDaMan]

Excellent photos, as always

[Peter D Evans]

Fantastic stuff Matthias... thanks for keeping us up-to-date with this

Cheers
Peter D Evans
LEMB Administrator

[Matthias Dorst]

Some more details ? Okay, here we are, here we go

engine mount .... the firewall we be replaced



architecture ... I love such insights













"Handlochdeckel" is the German word for that hatch



wingradiator housing



detailshot wheelbay



maingeararrestinghook .... dont know the right term in english

[Matthias Dorst]

lets talk about gears and struts

heavy metal !









the maingear on the bench

[Matthias Dorst]

something special .... teeth to bite those Hurricans and Spitfires



just kidding .... these teeth are for adjusting the wheel alignment



after adjusting the wheel alignment, both parts are screwed together with that "ring" in the middle. The ring is tapped clockwise on one side and counterclockwise on the other. In my opinion a simple but perfect solution ... typical German craftmanship



insights

[8674planes]

Do you hope it to fly next year?

[Matthias Dorst]

also a major part of every Messerschmitt ... attachment maingear to the fuselage





washing off all those colors



in the paintshop



RLM02

[The Blue Max]

Sorry to strike a grumpy note, but that the paint job on that Tiger is, what's the word now... horrible.

I know G-ANMV of old, when it was based at Booker with Tigerfly, and it used to look very authentic, in correct colours. This new paint scheme seems very odd, and the colours in the roundel are more like those seen in WW1.

It was a sad day when she crunched, whilst in the hands of Mark Walden ( not his fault ) The engine stopped in a stall turn just north of Henley on Thames, and the subsequent arrival in a field was rather on the firm side.

On reflection, the colours look quite different in the various photos ( in hangar, outside) , so perhaps the digital colour balance is making it look worse than it is.

Im affraid I have to agree, the cockpit green looks a litte strange, and as for the green instrument panels!!!!!!!!!!!

[Matthias Dorst]

Im affraid I have to agree, the cockpit green looks a litte strange, and as for the green instrument panels!!!!!!!!!!!

The restauration and paintjob was not done at the MeierMotors shop. The bipe was restored by the former owner over several years. Now the new owner will decide further steps

[SE5AFAN]

Great to see that Tiggie again.
I flew in her at Booker in 1993

[Seafuryfan]

Superb photography as always Matthias. It really is a guided tour in excellent detail. Thank you!

[The Blue Max]

The restauration and paintjob was not done at the MeierMotors shop. The bipe was restored by the former owner over several years. Now the new owner will decide further steps

Good news, It deserves better If you need any help, we have a little bit of experience with Tiger Moths

[Avro Avian]

Great photos of the main landing gear disassembled. Interesting engineering solutions. Thanks again for sharing Matthias!

[Matthias Dorst]

some october updates

The "project corner" . In the foreground the TF-51 project, followed by the Spitfire T9 project. On the right side the Corsair. She´s getting some electrical "updates". Beside the Corsair you ca see Rob Lamploughs magnificent P-51 "Miss Helen". There is some work concerning the avionics.



TF-51 project .... what a beauty



At the shop there are sometimes other birds than warbirds. Here a Piper Archer II. The plane got a big maintenance, complete new finish and of course a new interior. In the background Miss Helen and the Corsair



Miss Helen and the Flying Nightmare



Again a climpse into the project corner

[DazDaMan]

Excellent updates, as always

I really hope this year sees MJ772 flying again!